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Hello everyone I’m pulling the engine out of my mustang. It’s a 1966 but it has a 1969 302 in it with automatic C4 transmission. I took all accessories off, vacuums hoses, carb, trans bolts, trans torque converter bolts, and engine mount bolts. All of those are off an I tried to jack the engine out with engine hoist. Now the only thing is it’s still stuck to the tranny, I’ve jacked it up tried pulling it out to unhook maybe it stuck but I’ve pulled hard an that sucker won’t pull off tranny. Any one have any suggestions on what the hell could be holding the engine to the transmission still , please help lol. I spent several hours for it to not come off so anything would help. Thank you!
 

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There may be a bolt that passes through the block plate into the transmission bellhousing.
Did you pry the bellhousing away from the engine? There are 2 dowels in the rear of the block that align the block plate and the bellhousing. The bellhousing can be hanging up on those dowels.
 

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If indeed everything is unbolted, it's probably hanging up on the bellhousing dowels. Try jacking the trans up to match the angle of the engine.
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Thank you both, so I tried to pry the bell housing away from the trans am the engine an I tried at diff angles but it didn’t work. Also I was originally trying to jack up the car because I’ve heard it up on the front is better angle to take the engine out but my jacks won’t go up high enogh for me to put my jack stands :( so I’m trying to do it without it jacked up. Thank you
 

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Thank you both, so I tried to pry the bell housing away from the trans am the engine an I tried at diff angles but it didn’️t work. Also I was originally trying to jack up the car because I’️ve heard it up on the front is better angle to take the engine out but my jacks won’️t go up high enogh for me to put my jack stands <img src="http://forums.vintage-
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If engines have been together for years the dowel pins can definitely hold a guy up. Just to make sure-how many bolts did you remove from the bell housing?
 

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I removed 6 transmission bolts that were to engine and 4 torque converter bolts that where in on the flex plate.
 

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Yes sorry did pull that as well. If it is the dowel pins that’s getting hung up how do I get to them if the engine is still stuck to the transmission
 

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How about just pull the engine and transmission together. Disconnect the driveshaft, transmission mount, the shifter, and the speedometer cable. Then you can tackle the issue outside of the car and get a full view of what's going on.
 

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My engine hoist is only enogh to hold the engine. Also my trans cooling lines I had to pay a shop to put them on since they were at an insane impossible angle unless you have a lift. So to pull the trans out the trans cooling lines have to come off an I can’t get them off. I’m only pulling engine off to paint the engine block/ bay and put a new intake manifold in it so I don’t want to take the whole trans out too.
 

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Any clamps on the trans cooler lines to the block?
When I pull engine and box together, I remove the radiator and leave the cooling lines on the box.
Try lifting the engine enough to clear the engine mounts, support the front of the bellhousing, slowly lower the engine back down a bit, while looking for movement at the joining point.
When you lift the engine, its trying to lift the box as well because of the dowels and torque converter snout ... the front of the box is trying to fall down, wedging it on the dowels and snout.
 

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"QUOTE"Also I was originally trying to jack up the car because Ive heard it up on the front is better angle to take the engine out but my jacks wont go up high enogh for me to put my jack stands"

Use a solid block of wood on your jack to get some more lift..?

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That I’m unsure of I didn’t touch the trans fill tube since I saw it went straight into trans but that I’ll have to check. Also I tried using wood to help jack the car up but my jack is old an has wells so it slowly moves an the car slides off.
 

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Try spraying WD-40 around the area and let it sit. When you go to pull it just take a little weight off and try to pull it forward not up.
 

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I never bother to separate the engine and trans in ANY car any more...I always pull them together...its just not worth the headache to me...my suggestion is to throw a couple bolts back in, and pull them together...save yourself the alignment headache when putting it back in, its much easier to work them apart and put them together outside the car. The only downside is that if you dont have a spare drivehsaft u-joint you have to drain the trans fluid first
 

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Watto, I've pulled a lot of engines, but never with the car jacked up. Whether its on stands, or just on a jack, that'd be kind of dangerous to me, as you're risking the car falling off while you're wrestling with getting the engine loose. My engine hoist would probably have a hard time getting it high enough to clear my radiator support too! If you can't persuade the trans and engine to part ways in the car, I have to agree with everyone else - taking it out together makes sense. But all that said, I'd probably try using a big flat-bladed screwdriver between the block and radiator (not too viciously! That housing's only aluminum on the transmission! Don't hammer, just use your hands) and see if you can't break the bond between them.
 

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I apologize, I missed that post. Sometimes the engine and trans like to stock together. Assuming all the bellhousing bolts are out(and the starter of course), and that you have checked for inspection plate/block spacer plate bolts...you could always jack the engine and tranny up slightly and place a transmission jack(or block of some type) under the trans, then raise and lower the engine using said block as a pivot point...the idea being to work them apart. If you have any gap at all between engine and trans, you can also use wooden shims to help pry them apart...wooden shims are soft enough they wont hurt anything as you hammer them into gaps(although you will have some splinters to clean up afterwards)
 

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The jacking up of the car to make it easier, refers to jacking the rear of the car up and sitting it on axle stands. It makes it easier when pulling and installing engine and box together. Jacking the front is gunna make it harder.
 
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