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I should have this bolt in my AMK Master Bolt Kit. But I don’t know what it looks like nor the description.
What does it look like?
I’m about to weld a nut to the bracket if I cant find the correct bolt.
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J-Nut? Are you guys sure about that?
On my '65 a bolt goes through that bracket and screws into a nut that's part of the internal brace on the aft end of the fender. The bracket has an oversize hole to allow for fender adjustment.
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My '67 was made in Dearborn and had the J-nut on the fender. The bolt passed through the bracket in the picture shown and then tightened into the J-nut.
 

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On my 68 the nut is built into the rear of the fender as Awhtx mentioned.
My Metuchen built '68 had the J nuts on the brackets (both sides) when I got it in 2008. I'm not at home tonight but tomorrow I'll look in my '68 Osborn Body Assembly Manual to see what it shows and report back. I'm sure the attachment method was different for the model year '65/66 cars though, and I suppose it's also possible this could be one of those many mid year changes (March, '68) Ford made to reduce production costs after the strike ended in November of '67. Let's see what the book says... :)
 

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I'll look in my '68 Osborn Body Assembly Manual to see what it shows and report back.,,,, Let's see what the book says... :)
That would be very much appreciated. I'm most interested in whether the fender piece goes in front of or behind the bracket.

I found this diagram in one of my books but it doesn't really help with that.
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My Metuchen built '68 had the J nuts on the brackets (both sides) when I got it in 2008. I'm not at home tonight but tomorrow I'll look in my '68 Osborn Body Assembly Manual to see what it shows and report back. I'm sure the attachment method was different for the model year '65/66 cars though, and I suppose it's also possible this could be one of those many mid year changes (March, '68) Ford made to reduce production costs after the strike ended in November of '67. Let's see what the book says... :)
The nut should be on fender. The purpose of the big square bracket is to allow room for adjustment. When the bolt is tightened down its held tight in place against the bracket.
 

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That would be very much appreciated. I'm most interested in whether the fender piece goes in front of or behind the bracket.

I found this diagram in one of my books but it doesn't really help with that.
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The bracket should be accessible when you have the door open. So the fender goes up to it but stays to the front of it. The bolt goes through the bracket into the nut on the fender.
 

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Turns out there is nothing specific about this in the Body Assembly Manual, and the Ford Shop Manual only makes a reference to removing the "Pillar Bolt" for fender removal. No drawings of exactly how it is attached. It seems that the J nut can be installed either way (bracket or fender) and allow for adjustment while holding everything just fine when tightened. Mine does. I would defer to 22GT if his long experience says one way or the other though, bet he would know. :)
 

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Turns out there is nothing specific about this in the Body Assembly Manual, and the Ford Shop Manual only makes a reference to removing the "Pillar Bolt" for fender removal. No drawings of exactly how it is attached. It seems that the J nut can be installed either way (bracket or fender) and allow for adjustment while holding everything just fine when tightened. Mine does. I would defer to 22GT if his long experience says one way or the other though, bet he would know. :)
The fender, and the structural brace inside it, goes in front of the bracket. The nut is welded to the brace. The bolt passes through the bracket into the nut within the fender.

Mounting the nut in the bracket would make it impossible to attach the fender to it.
 

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The fender, and the structural brace inside it, goes in front of the bracket. The nut is welded to the brace. The bolt passes through the bracket into the nut within the fender.

Mounting the nut in the bracket would make it impossible to attach the fender to it.
For a '68? Well, there you have it. The way I found mine (and have them attached now, brace behind the bracket) is an anomaly then. And it's obviously not impossible to attach them that way, because mine are. Are you saying then that '67/68's don't utilize a J nut at the pillar at all, that a nut gets welded? I miss the old "Shrug" emoji. :)
 

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On 69's, (May or may not apply here) the bolt looks similar to the fender bolt, but has a larger washer to cover the square hole during adjustment.
 

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Here's a fender with a clip nut attached to the tab inside the fender.

The white-painted one shows the bolt going through the square hole (visible at the edge of the bolt) into the fender.

If the bolt passes through the fender tab first, there's no way to adjust the bolt position, and of course attaching a nut to the large square hole in the bracket would be challenging to say the least.

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Okay. So for '67/68 it is indeed a J (or clip nut as you call it) and it isn't welded on. And mine are in a different place than where the factory put 'em. Good to know! (y)
 
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