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Hello,
I like to change my 428 FE automatic in to a stick shift car.

Should have the most needed parts here, as
Clutch + Flywheel,
C60A-D Z Bellhousing,
RUG-S 428 (Shelby?) Toploader (10/31 spline) without slip yoke
Shifter,
Pedal Assy.

Now wondering, will be the drive shaft usable from C6 -> Toploader?
is the slip yoke usable?

It looks, like toploader plus bell housing is rough 3" shorter than my C6?

Thank you !
Joe
 

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Slip yoke is the same (both 31 spline) but the 4 speed d/s is longer as you suspected. I can get you the exact dimension from the Ford Master Parts catalog or you can find it on the internet. 428 Cobra jet.org is a great source for everything CJ related.
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Also, the trans crossmember is unquiet to an FE setup.
C7ZZ-6A023-A.
Think the number "250" is on mine
Trans ID tag for a '68 428 stang is RUG-AE
My 390 is RUG-M1

Your C60A-D Z Bellhousing is listed for a '68 390GT = C6OA-6394-D. Guess would work.
They list for a 428 CJ C8OA-6394-A
Of course you need diff radiator, backup switch.

driveshaft, for 1968 = 428 CJ manual 50" long, C8zz-4602-B. for an auto = 46 37/64" long
For a 390, 50 1/64" manual C7ZZ-4602-C, for auto 46 37/64" long
 

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Slip yoke is the same (both 31 spline) but the 4 speed d/s is longer as you suspected. I can get you the exact dimension from the Ford Master Parts catalog or you can find it on the internet. 428 Cobra jet.org is a great source for everything CJ related.
Randy
I got a list yesterday shows all these different lengths of drive shafts. thank you for advice !
 

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Also, the trans crossmember is unquiet to an FE setup.
C7ZZ-6A023-A.
Think the number "250" is on mine
Trans ID tag for a '68 428 stang is RUG-AE
My 390 is RUG-M1

Your C60A-D Z Bellhousing is listed for a '68 390GT = C6OA-6394-D. Guess would work.
They list for a 428 CJ C8OA-6394-A
Of course you need diff radiator, backup switch.

driveshaft, for 1968 = 428 CJ manual 50" long, C8zz-4602-B. for an auto = 46 37/64" long
For a 390, 50 1/64" manual C7ZZ-4602-C, for auto 46 37/64" long
Found a crossmember on my pile. Why another radiator? can I block the transmission cooler fittings?
Mustangtek reads RUG-S for 428 / Shelby ?
 

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maybe later I will upgrade. for now I like to stay "factory like ;-)" Thank you for the link, I dot knowed this company before.
There are a number of small specialized companies that are favorites of VMF people. OpenTracker is one plus Street or Track & Chongostang - all three will gladly talk to you on the phone and give you honest advice. And look at the others at "Vendors" under "Forums" at this site. For big block Mustang parts, also check out Welcome to Mansfield Restoration Parts

Keep us informed. And we love photos.

PS I love the TKO600 behind my 390. The overdrive makes a world of difference on the highway.
 

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Found a crossmember on my pile. Why another radiator? can I block the transmission cooler fittings?
Mustangtek reads RUG-S for 428 / Shelby ?
Here's a couple id charts, first for All Fords, 2nd one just mustang on manual trans id's.
I don't see any RUG-S...
 

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There are a number of small specialized companies that are favorites of VMF people. OpenTracker is one plus Street or Track & Chongostang - all three will gladly talk to you on the phone and give you honest advice. And look at the others at "Vendors" under "Forums" at this site. For big block Mustang parts, also check out Welcome to Mansfield Restoration Parts

Keep us informed. And we love photos.

PS I love the TKO600 behind my 390. The overdrive makes a world of difference on the highway.
to be honest, this time its not about my Fastback, here i convert my 427 Cougar GT-E in to a stick shift car.
Since its a litte bit of blasphemie i can not ask the cougar guys for advice, the most of them see the car ONLY in factory like concours nuts and bot correct.
I do the same, with a little bit of creativity. I use ONLY original parts from 68, and the Parts Ford had used if they had build stick shift GT-Es.
But they dont, all build 427 cars are automatics. I use 68 428 CJ parts as Bellhousing, Transmission and when i can locate a 428 drive shaft.
 

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driveshaft, for 1968 = 428 CJ manual 50" long, C8zz-4602-B. for an auto = 46 37/64" long
For a 390, 50 1/64" manual C7ZZ-4602-C, for auto 46 37/64" long
I find these dimensions really odd given how sloppily these cars were made originally, plus the play provided by the slip yoke. Lengths to 1/64"? Seriously?!
 
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