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Just found out what this car was thanks to Vintage-Mustang forum and some enthusiastic members....read on. I purchased this car at least ten years ago in CA. The fellow had also owned an automatic.

The car had F (302 2v)on the front aprons

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S (390 4v) on the buck tag


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R (428) on the door and VIN tags

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It had been in CA and TX for its days and was in pretty good overall condition, the paint was a quickie and poor quality. It seemed quite clear that this car was a 428 from the R codes.

I came to this forum to find some information on a couple of Mustangs that I own and after posting a couple of real keeners clued into some info that I was unaware of. Kudos to egnorant and pprince. Shortly thereafter Kevin Marti chimed in and revealed to me that this was the first 428 convertible. How cool is that......

I've learned a few things that hopefully can expand everyones knowledge on the blue oval.

The lower portion of the door tag was supposed to be stamped with the same info as the top part then sheared off. It was called a temporary owners card and was placed in the glove box/owners manual.

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You will notice that the door tag on this car did not get stamped on the lower portion. The most likely reason is that the car is a Ford pool vehicle as designated by the 89 dso and probably never did get warranty.

The second anomaly on the door tag was the 3.50 axle code (code H). This was not available on 428 cars. The paperwork from Kevin indicates that the car came with a 3.00 axle (code E). I've not been able to determine what differential is in the car.

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The third is the Feb 16 date code, the cars were not available until April.

When I got the car home I briefly looked through it and pulled up the carpet on the drivers side. The hole in the firewall for the clutch had been cut with a set of tin snips, the piece of firewall was buried in the underlay.

I'm sorry that I could not get any better pics, it is not that accessible. If anyone knows anything else about this car please let me know. My intention is to finish putting the parts together for the planned restoration and get it out of the rack in the next couple of years, for now it is out of harms way.

Fred

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Wow! That is a cool story. It sounds as if this car has found a good home.

Quite a collection of vehicles you've got there!

What is the tan one with the doors that go into the roof a bit and the big air scoops in the rear?

Thanks in advance for the info.

John Harvey
 

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I have 2 things to say.....

1. very cool find. that thing needs to be restored

2. I didn't believe in heaven until I saw the picture of that warehouse with all of those beautiful classics...... :)
 

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If that doesn't put lead in your pencil, nothing will!
 

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Thats a great story. Are you going to restore her or sell the car? If you decide to sell please let me know first. Is that a GT40 in one of those pics? AWESOME cars!
 

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Wow! That is a cool story. It sounds as if this car has found a good home.

Quite a collection of vehicles you've got there!

What is the tan one with the doors that go into the roof a bit and the big air scoops in the rear?

Thanks in advance for the info.

John Harvey
looks like a gt40 to me
 

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It would concern me as a buyer that the car has 3 different VIN#'s. I may be wrong but I believe that the vin on the appron is considered to the actual vin#. I see that the consecutive serial number, plant, and body are the same.
If I were you, the car would be well documented to prove its status as a "R" code.
 

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good thoughts sidewinder,

i've learned alot about VINs and obtaining clear titles. i live in canada and must export all of my vehicles from the US and then import them into canada. if there is anyone on the earth that is tough on this kind of burocracy it is customs and border protection. so in my case that is times 2.

the public vin (the one in the windshield) is considered the vin of the vehicle. 1968 was the first year of public vins (thanks to kevin for that one) public vins facilitated much easier access to vehicle id without intrusion.

the door tag says "not for title or registration" it is considered a warranty number according to the tag info

the apron number is gone to if the car is considered stolen or suspect. that is determined in the state of california by a dmv or chp officer educated on the subject and the process is called a vin verification. you need one of these if getting a title on a vehicle that has a lost title or was previously stolen.

i recently purchased a SS/AMX that was reserialized between the 69 and 70 race seasons, a new vin was put in the car by amc to cheat the homologation rules, about half of the 52 cars were reserialized and converted into 70's. this particular car had a 70 public vin and a 69 frame vin, the title was in the 69 vin. we booked a vin verification appointment and even though the frame vin was incomplete, it only had seven digits (which included the sequential number) the car came through as matching the title paperwork (which was thirteen digits) because the vin officers have information on every virtually every vehicle made and know what exceptions would apply to each vehicle.

with respect to the 68.5 it has clear california and canadian paperwork.

you can never be to safe.
 

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The second anomaly on the door tag was the 3.50 axle code (code H). This was not available on 428 cars.
IIRC the 3.50 was not available on automatics w/AC but was without AC. I don't see AC on the Marti. Nice car and certainly not the first time a car was stamped wrong
 

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You need to get a Elite report from Marti stating it is the first CJ vert!
 

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Is the one to the right of the GT40 a Merak Spyder??? If so, I didn't know that they made those. You've obviously got very good taste in automobiles. It must be a thrill to have a sixth sense about a certain car. (the R code) adn then realize you were spot on when yoyu find out it was number one! Congrats.
 

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jb- great idea

olddusty- detomaso mangusta spyder prototype, hipo 289, 5 speed, air, pw. spent more time in a twa plane than driving.

spider- i just love spyders (the car kind) i'm car rich-cash poor
 

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Mangusta spyder, WOW. That's WAY better than a Merak Spyder!! LOL on the Spider!! ::
 

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Great story!

Whenever I drive around in the country in my state, I dream of finding a rare Mustang sitting somewhere. Cool find and very cool garage.
 

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Congratulations. That is a rare car indeed. Please register it with the 428 Cobra Jet web site (if you haven't already). http://www.428cobrajet.org/

According to the 428 Cobra Jet registry there were 34 Mustang (non-Shelby) R-code convertibles produced in 1968. This information came from Marti and thus I assume that it includes your car. I have heard secondhand (not verified by Marti) that only 8 of them were Candyapple Red.

I must admit I am kind of disappointed. I thought that my R-code convertible was the only red one with a deluxe red interior. Obviously I was wrong.

Good luck with it. If you get a chance, I would LOVE a picture of the underneath of the hood where the hood scoop is bolted on. I would like to see the configuration of the scoop studs and the shape of the hole. My email is [email protected] Thanks in advance.
 
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