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64 1/2 peculiarities

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Now that I have the 64 1/2 sitting next to my 66, I'm starting to notice all the little details that makes a 64 1/2 different. Here's a list of the things I've found so far. Some of these I knew about, some I didn't. If I missed some, tell me, so I can make sure my car has it right.

beveled headlight buckets and hood
great big flared horns mounted low inside engine compartment
louvered radiator support near battery
generator
no diagonal engine bay supports for convertible
smaller fender MUSTANG script
13 inch wheels
gen light on dash
letter A on fresh air pull
seat belt eyelets instead of boltholes

Let me know if I missed anything. It's really interesting how many things they changed after building only a few cars.

It sure looks cool having two convertibles parked side by side. Reminds me what my 66 used to look like before I disassembled it.




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Do you have the non-adjustable passenger seat? Does the carpet have a toe pad? Is it carpeted up to the sill plates, or is it vinyl?

Vintage Burgundy 1966 Mustang GT Fastback (Midlife's younger brother)
MCA member #46447
fixed passenger seat
I believe the early '65 also had the eyebolt seatbelt bolts (not peculiar to 64 1/2).
The road draft thing-a-ma-jiggy (at least on the v8)
Your car sounds like a neat project. Good luck

Paul
1965 Mustang 2+2
1989 Mustang GT Convertible
MCA #27261
MCA certified judge for 65's and late models
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there are so so many more. a good way to get a bunch more of them is to take a catalog and look at the different years that will fit the part. There will be a bunch of different things. I find a new one every time i go to work on it.
And the rear fender extensions have no small rubber strip seal to the body. John

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you haven't even begun to touch on all the differences. i think there is something like 100 or more 64.5 unique parts. albeit, some of those parts did continue on into early 65 production.

do you have the early style sill plates and door arm rests? compare these to the ones on your convertible. the early sill plates are square at the edges instead of rounded and the chrome base of the armrest does not have the angle cut where you put your hand to close the door.

-64.5 steering wheel and turn signal switch are unique
-color keyed door lock knobs
-there may be a large shifter bezel around the manual shifter
-2 speed heater motor with switch off in the center
-the brake/clutch and gas pedal will not have an indentation around the perimeter of the pads
-there is a small pad screwed to the front of the doors where it meets the door light plunger switch
-the door fuzzies are black on the top instead of stainless
-parking light retainers are a full circle instead of notched
-the voltage regulator is a different design.
-most of the wiring in the engine bay is different
-starter solenoid is usually brown bakelite instead of black
-the fuel filler neck usually has crimp clamps
-jack has coarse thread and the lug nut wrench handle is not rounded
-spare tire is mounted differently(refer to owners manual)
-64.5 usually does not have jacking instructions decal on underside of trunk lid
-your convertible should have a rubber plaid trunk mat
-the hood does not have holes for a hood lip moulding
-hood hinges are painted black
-the service decal on the LH shock tower is different on a 64.5
-there will be no holes to mount horns on the radiator support since they are mounted down on the frame
-etc, etc, etc....

Charles Turner
MCA Gold Card Judge(64.5-65, 66)
'65 Fastback
'00 GT Conv, triple black


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actually, this went on through most of 65 production

Charles Turner
MCA Gold Card Judge(64.5-65, 66)
'65 Fastback
'00 GT Conv, triple black


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I got dozens more, but here's some highlights:

 Open hood bumper with exposed screw
 Brake light switch mounted on master cylinder
 “Side-oiler” cap on distributor base
 Color-keyed door lock knobs and grommets
 Door window weatherstrip has black bead
 Smaller T-handle grip on transmission lever
 Auto. transmission bezel has no raised casting marks or red selection indicators (both with and without console).
 Non-beveled arm rest bases
 Door step plates with squared corners
 Rear quarter trim panels without raised section by package tray
 Smaller 4½-inch MUSTANG fender emblems
 Splatter-pattern burtex trunk mat



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'64½ Indy 500 Pace Car coupe
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Did the windshield wipers have a round chrome piece at the point where wipers pushed on. My Dads 64 conv has those. Also wasnt there something different about the gas cap? Didnt they add the cable holding them on in 65. BTW dads convert is the 30th Mustang made at the San Jose plant, the serial numer ends with a 1 then a lot of zeros followed by 30. Too cool! fd

1967 GT coupe been in my garage since 1974
1993 Ranger ExtCab 4.0L daily driver
1996 Aerostar wifes ride
I'm going to have to go find out if my car has all these neat parts. I'll bet restoring a 64.5 can get expensive, since not all these parts are reproduced.


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the wiper bezels were used as far into 65 production as April, 65... i know this because my fastback has them and this was when my car was built!

the bail wire for the gas cap was added around May/June.

remember that San Jose only built 64.5 mustangs for about a month.

Charles Turner
MCA Gold Card Judge(64.5-65, 66)
'65 Fastback
'00 GT Conv, triple black


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yeah, it can get expensive. i know a guy that spent around $50k restoring his 64.5 D code convertible. he farmed out a lot of work though.

Charles Turner
MCA Gold Card Judge(64.5-65, 66)
'65 Fastback
'00 GT Conv, triple black


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What's this round chrome piece? Is it on the wiper arm or the blade?


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Rear quarter trim panels without raised section by package tray

Huh?


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How is the steering wheel different?

My arm rest bases are palomino colored, but they are beveled on both ends. They appear original because the padded tops are in bad shape.

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Oops, sorry, coupe only. On the rear interior quarter panels, there's a horizontal flat section about 3" x 5" at the top next to the top of the seatback in front of the package tray. On "regular" '65 cars, there is a slightly raised bevel about .25" in from the edge on this surface. The early-style '64½ cars do not have this raised bevel. Found mine on a donor coupe, June '64 build date.

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the base of where the wiper goes through the cowl has a chrome bezel and a screw to hold it on. look at your 66, they flared up the cowl area instead of using the chrome pieces

Charles Turner
MCA Gold Card Judge(64.5-65, 66)
'65 Fastback
'00 GT Conv, triple black


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steering wheel is different, you'll just have to compare it to a regular 65/66 to see the difference. the main difference is the horn contact configuration.

the arm rest bases were phased out sometime during 64.5 production

Charles Turner
MCA Gold Card Judge(64.5-65, 66)
'65 Fastback
'00 GT Conv, triple black


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I don't think someone has mentioned this yet:
The hole where the front brake hoses are secured to the metal brake lines, is hexagon on the 64.5's and it was changed to "something that looks more like a socket" (whatever that geometrical figure is called?) on the 65's.



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