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How can you tell if a car is a real GT?? I have a friend who buys & resells cars, and he claims to have a GT. It has trumpet exaust,fog lights, GT gas cap etc... but all that can be changed. Is there any real distinguating marks?? Thanks!!

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Some of the items you mentioned could indicate a GT, except the 65 GT did not have a special gas cap.

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Here are some ideas. Check the date codes of the front fenders. Hopefully they are original. Then check where the emblems are to see if there is evidence of the holes being filled where the stock emblems would have been.

GT's did not come with rear quarter panel ornaments. I don't know if you could order them though. Anyway you should check this area for evidence of the holes being filled. You need to remove the inner quarter panels to check this. Hopefully the rear quarters are still original.

Another thing to check is remove the instrument cluster. Verify the correct GT ammeter. You will see a metal loop behind the ammeter and a heavy wire running through it. In 66 this was changed to a plug. Also check that the dash under the speedo has a dip and doesn't look like someone cut it out to make the 5 dial instr. cluster fit. If the car has a delux interior then this check really means nothing because the delux interior came with the correct 5 dial instr. cluster regardless if it was a GT or not.

Check the hole where the fog lamp switch is mounted through the dash. If you have stamped D shaped hole that is a real good indicator however there are documented 65 GT's with drilled holes so this doesn't disqualify it.

For it to be a GT it must be an A or K code. To verify factory dual exhaust lift up the rear seat and check for the metal plates which reinforce the floor to hold the exhaust brackets. There are also some unique bolts holding the brackets on.

The holes for the fog lamp wiring in the rad support should be punched.

Sometimes the best clues are from the original paint. Sometimes you can find the original stripes under new paint and stripes for example. All these clues are not 100% convincing but they do help.

If it's not a San Jose car you may be lucky and find a build sheet. No buck tags though. (Thanks Jeff)

Adrien.



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67 Restomod Coupe, in assy.
69 Mach 1, SWMBO say don't take it apart!
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There is only one definitive way to ID a '65 GT and, sorry, it only works on non-Interior Decor Group cars. Does the car have standard interior? If so, does it have a 5-dial instrument cluster? Dash panels with the 5-dial cluster will have an indented area above the steering column. Only factory GTs and cars with the Interior Decor Group will have this style of dash panel as it was used specifically for the 5-dial cluster. Even if it does have a 5-dial cluster, it should be pulled away from the dash panel to check to see if it’s a factory application as these clusters have been added by owners to standard interior cars over the years.


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We've said it before..... you really can't if the person has done their homework, started with the right car and did everything.

You can determine if the car was not an original GT by checking for all the stuff that should be there, and lloking for the things that should not be present on a GT

What should be? All those pretty exterior items, the support items for thos eparts (holes in the right places...) and those hidden things like a factory dual exhaust car (supports in the rear frame rails, correct location of the brake lines, correct rear shakles...)

What shouldn't? Anything related to a single exhaust car, holes for emblems in the quarter panel or front fenders... and so on

And of course the correct month of production... since 65 GT's were built for such a short time. Over all I would estimate that at least a quarter of ever 65 GT I've seen through the years were owner fakes :(

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Sorry but buck tags were not used on Dearborn cars in 65. You list of other items should be very helpful to the person asking the question though

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