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Thinking of dropping one in my ‘65 conv., but I’m spooked by the small 206/206 cam. I want a smooth idle, it’s a cruiser, but I don’t want a total pussycat either.

Does anyone have a dyno sheet on it?

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I have a cam like that in my 289. I custom ordered it like that from Comp Cams in 2002 or 2003. Funny to see that they are now used in Ford crate engines. It works well, with a 17-18 inch idle and pulls well throughout the RPM range. It doesn't like 6000 RPM (valve float) but that's probably a valve spring issue.
 

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They give you a short block that will handle 600 horsepower with a small cam and crappy heads. If you want that mellow of a cruiser you can do it with a refurbished roller block and cheap heads for a lot less. Look at the Blueprint stuff if that is what you want. Probably save $5000 and get fifty horsepower.
 

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I have a cam like that in my 289. I custom ordered it like that from Comp Cams in 2002 or 2003. Funny to see that they are now used in Ford crate engines. It works well, with a 17-18 inch idle and pulls well throughout the RPM range. It doesn't like 6000 RPM (valve float) but that's probably a valve spring issue.
Is your cam a 110 LSA too? How does it sound? Does it sound like it’s cammed, or totally stock? Thanks.
 

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They give you a short block that will handle 600 horsepower with a small cam and crappy heads. If you want that mellow of a cruiser you can do it with a refurbished roller block and cheap heads for a lot less. Look at the Blueprint stuff if that is what you want. Probably save $5000 and get fifty horsepower.
That makes sense, and part of my mental debate. It’s really paying for Ford’s quality control and warranty, and basically a new factory Ford engine. I’ve read so many reviews (I know, big mistake), where people have had this issue or that with crates, and I really don’t want to deal with it.

The other big thing is that I don’t want a lopey or bumpy idle. I’ve got that now with a cam that I designed myself 25 years ago, and it’s cold blooded and my family won’t drive it. The thing is, all the crate guys seem to go straight for the lopey cams. They start in high 220’s/230’s and go up from there. Ford does too after this engine! Weird, nothing in between. I can’t find anything between the Ford 206 and too big. Know of any? Thank you.
 

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Do you have a hp/tq goal in mind?
375-400 hp, and 400+ tq. Would be fine. Actually, I think Ford’s advertised numbers would be fine (totally annoying that they won’t publish dyno sheet on complete engine btw), but as cheapbastard👆Pointed out, I’d be paying for a 600hp short block that may be tuned down so far you can’t even tell the power is there. I’m talking mostly sound and feel as you cruise.
 

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You can buy this assembled short block for $2,500 then build the rest to suit your needs. I think you would come out way ahead going this route. If my motor i'm putting together right now ends up having issues, I plan on buying a 393 block from them.

 
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Is your cam a 110 LSA too? How does it sound? Does it sound like it’s cammed, or totally stock? Thanks.
It doesn't sound stock, but that's more due the exhaust than the cam. The LSA is 110.

Like others have pointed out, you can get a more powerful engine at half the price. On the other hand, I have no doubt that Ford engine will run great, and will be both smooth and powerful. I also have rarely heard of people having problems with their Ford Racing crate engines.
 

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I think it's not a bad deal for a ready to run engine with an aftermarket block. That's at least $2500 right there just for the block if you were to buy one and have it machined. This would give you room to grow in the future with more cam and heads and, perhaps, power adders.

However, I agree that if you're just looking for what it actually is, and not its potential or the added value of the aftermarket block, there's other options that are less expensive, more powerful and have a similar level of completeness:

 

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I would look at customer comments for blueprint. I think they're actually pretty good.
 
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