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Ok, I know I have to get a new drive shaft and crossmember, and the propper wiring, but what else?

In checking the Windsor Fox website, I understand I can use my existing stock shifter, but I don't really get how. Will I be able to manually shift through all 4 gears?

Also, I don't get what the TV cable is for. Can someone clue me in on what the TV cable is, what's it's for, and how and where it hooks up?

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Maybe there's a modification for your shifter or maybe you just can't hold manual low in the AOD with your stock shifter....

TV is throttle valve...kinda works the same way as a vacuum modulator...guess the cable hooks up to the carb and senses throttle position....

Pat
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With the stock shifter, you just can't shift into 1st gear. My understanding is, you can use the stock crossmember, but you have to drop it to remove the pan from the trans for a fluid/filter change. Since Windsor-Fox want's $119 for their's, I think I'll put the stock one back on. (Or modify it myself)

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The AOD only has three drive positions - OD - D - 1, so you can use the stock shifter which also has onlly three drive positions.

Putting the tranny into OD allows it to shift itself 1-4, placing it in D only lets it go 1-3, placing it in 1 lets you hold it in 1st.

If you shift from D to 1 at speeds greater than 25-30 mph, the tranny will downshift to 2nd, but will drop to 1 when the speed gets below 20-25 mph.

The TV is essential to AOD operation. It is actuated continuously by the throttle and has to be pulled or pushed progressively with throttle operation to adjsut internal line pressure. It determines the shift points. If it's maladjusted, the shifts will be too soft, too harsh, or at the wrong speed. If you don't connect it, the tranny may fail very quickly.

You may not have to shorten the driveshaft. The AOD is only about 3/4" longer than a C4. I was able to use a stock unshortened shaft.

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I also used the stock driveshaft with no problems. Stock shifter worked fine too. I also used the kickdown rod(for the C-4) from the throttle arm to actuate the TV cable. It is much cheaper than running an entire cable from the carb down to the tranny. I recommend you do this. My crossmember was a custom made version of the stock one. I forget the details of it. I evantually undid this mod. I didn't think the gain in gas mileage was worth it(maybe I was getting around 2-3 more MPG highway). My car had some vibration at speed because of the modified crossmember. I didn't like that.
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Mustangsix sure has that shift pattern down, nice discription! John, you did not say which tranny you are replacing. When I replaced my FMX for a AOD it was very close to the same length and I only had to swap the yoke to use the original driveshaft. I cut 1/3 of the FMX marked cross member away to clear the large AOD fluid pan. I recommend the Baumann shift kit with the defeat for the 3rd and 4th pressure cutback. I used a TV cable from a V8 car. Since it comes with a nice bracket to hold it to the tranny already, you just need to make a holder for the cable sheath at the carb and a place on the carb linkage to hold the cable itself. No vibrations, firm shifts, lower RPMs and better MPG....I will send some linkage pictures. John

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Great clarification....that makes sense, as I've known a number of guys who have retrofitted AOD's into their older Ford products but I never asked them how the shifter works...or the TV cable...

How's the hotrod inliner doin? I'd love to see some track numbers from you or John on these neat permutations...
Reminds me of the old E and F altereds at the track....

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Pat,

Jack has the real Hotrod. Hopefully we can get him to get it to the local track once he's worked all the kinks out. I'm expecting mid14's from it all and nothing higher.

I'm scrambling to get mine put back together by June. I'm planning a big road trip to Indiana with it from San Antonio. I hope I get her up to the task. I'll make time to hook the G-Tech up to it once or twice though before the month is over.

John

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John, please send the pics! My email address is [email protected].

I'm replacing a C4 with the AOD. Actually my C4 (with crossmember and driveshaft) will get transplanted to my son's '65 project. So I have to buy a crossmember and driveshaft anyway ('65 project doesn't currently have them).

Thanks all for some great responses!!!

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