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Does anybody know what constitutes "outside of the Phoenix metro area? I'm considering relocating to that area when my daughter finishes school in a couple of years. I would love to avoid dealing with emissions testing.
Here's a link to the map that shows which areas that require emissions testing. Be aware that if you live outside the indicated areas, but work inside, then you require emissions testing.

ADEQ: VEC Address Locator
 

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Wow lots of information and opinion. Like I sacral id I've been a part time resident for about 25 years and what drew me to Arizona was conservative values. Things they are a changing with the liberal attitudes coming mostly from California. I read the other day that 53% of people living in CA would like to move and they are migrating mostly to Oregon and Texas. As to the Emissions testing. My home is in Peoria so I guess that is something I'll need to contend with, but how will a car from 1970 ever pass? I think the only smog control on my car is the PCV valve. There must be more lenient standard for older cars.
 

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Does anybody know what constitutes "outside of the Phoenix metro area? I'm considering relocating to that area when my daughter finishes school in a couple of years. I would love to avoid dealing with emissions testing.
Phoenix is Maricopa County, so anything outside of Maricopa county is considered outside. :wink:
 

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Wow lots of information and opinion. Like I sacral id I've been a part time resident for about 25 years and what drew me to Arizona was conservative values. Things they are a changing with the liberal attitudes coming mostly from California. I read the other day that 53% of people living in CA would like to move and they are migrating mostly to Oregon and Texas. As to the Emissions testing. My home is in Peoria so I guess that is something I'll need to contend with, but how will a car from 1970 ever pass? I think the only smog control on my car is the PCV valve. There must be more lenient standard for older cars.
What they, AZ DOT, are looking for is how much hydrocarbon does you car put out when they do the test. When I had my 69 Mach 1 I had to detune it (make it lean) just before going through emissions.
 

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Does anybody know what constitutes "outside of the Phoenix metro area? I'm considering relocating to that area when my daughter finishes school in a couple of years. I would love to avoid dealing with emissions testing.
It's pretty much the entire valley, the whole metro area. See the map @LeeFred linked to. When we were looking at retirement property Wickenburg was on the short list. That's outside the smog testing area. When we found out there weren't any wickens in Wickenburg we took it off the list. False advertising if you ask me...
 

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This is way more confusing than I thought it would be but I appreciate every one's input. Believe it or not New Jersey is more lenient on registration and emissions. If you register the car as Historic (25 yrs old), the registration doesn't expire for three years and is less in fees than regular registration. There is no inspection required at all. Safety or emissions.
In Arizona the Department of Environmental Quality web site states: Before Registration the vehicle MAY need an emissions test. If the car is newer than 1967, which mine is (1970), and since I live in Phoenix Metro, it looks like I need to get an emissions test. My car is not exempt. Someone commented earlier if you have collector insurance, (I do. Haggerty) then you can skip the emissions testing. I don't believe that is accurate but I'm still researching. It appears to me that applying for Historic registration if you live in Phoenix or Tucson, really doesn't get you any benefit unless your car is 1967 or older. You can get the Specialty Copper Historic plates but that is about it. You still have to register the car every year at the normal fees, and get the emissions tested every two years. So if you like the way the Copper Plates look then go for it, but that's about all you'll get as a benefit.
I'm not sure I need to get an inspection for the VIN when applying for the title. This is right off their site. Physical inspection is typically not required for out-of-state vehicles if the owner has proof of ownership, such as a title, registration or both. If a physical inspection is required, the make, vehicle identification number (VIN), body style and other general vehicle information would be verified at an MVD or Authorized Third Party office prior to registration. I have my New Jersey title and registration so it looks like I meet the proof of ownership requirement. If anyone has more information, or if you know for a fact emission testing can be skipped with Collector Car Insurance, please let me know.
 

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Last I saw, the repeal made it through the Senate on Feb 12, and was headed to the House. Ducey says he'll veto it, but it appears there are enough votes to override his veto. I don't believe that it has been repealed as of yet because I can't imagine anything was done by the Legislature in 3 days...especially before a 3 day weekend. But I'm crossing my fingers because there was some shady backdoor maneuvering they played up there in Phoenix to get that TAX passed.
yep, the senate has approved the bill to repeal the tax, and sent it onto the house for a vote. and yes that idiot ducey has indicated that he will veto the bill if it gets to him. ducey was the better for governor, but i expected better than this from him.

as for having historic plates on your car, and emissions testing, that depends. if you use the car as a daily driver and have regular insurance on the car, then you have to meet any and all emissions requirements. on the other hand if you have historic plates, and have classic car insurance, and you have a daily driver as well, then you are exempted from emissions regulations. a friend of mine has several cars set up in that manner, including a 68 Z28 camaro, two corvettes, a 71 and a 79, and others.

the rules are that he can driver the cars a maximum of 2500 miles per yer, and cannot use them as a daily driver, and as noted he has to have a daily driver with regular insurance on it.
 

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Im at a loss of how Republicans keep getting elected in AZ when the people clearly do not support Republican values or policies. My neck of the woods is Tucson, my sister still lives there and I visit whenever I can. Tucson is becoming more and more a cross between California and Mexico. High crime, high unemployment, low wages, unaffordable housing, anti ICE, pro illegal immigration, my B-I-L is a police officer in Tucson, hates it.

I love the weather, the scenic beauty, the open space, rodeo and Tex-Mex to mention a few, but I see moving there as a sideways move from where I am now.

I disagree with much of this. There is quite a difference in the Tucson area, depending on where you live. The south side is not nice, and is primarily a Hispanic community. Then you have South Tucson, which is 99 percent Mexican. But, the east and northeast sides are wonderful areas to live and are not liberal enclaves. I believe the north and northwest sides are similar. Of course, the south side and west sides (other than far west, in the ranch area) are anti-ICE and pro-illegal immigration--they are governed by the Hispanic and University communities. No different than in any large city.

I don't know why you say housing is unaffordable, there is a wide range of homes available and the turnover is very quick when they go on the market. High unemployment? Businesses are always looking for employees here. Wages aren't low, either, no lower than anywhere else. Oh, and it's not Tex-Mex in Tucson, it is Mexican food.
 

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as for having historic plates on your car, and emissions testing, that depends. if you use the car as a daily driver and have regular insurance on the car, then you have to meet any and all emissions requirements. on the other hand if you have historic plates, and have classic car insurance, and you have a daily driver as well, then you are exempted from emissions regulations. a friend of mine has several cars set up in that manner, including a 68 Z28 camaro, two corvettes, a 71 and a 79, and others.



But does your friend live outside of the Phoenix metro area? It's my understanding there is no exemption inside the boundary for Historic Plates or Collector Insurance. If you live there and your car is newer than 1967 you have to get emissions checked. No if ands or buts.
 

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I registered my 69 FB in the White Mountains, just got done doing the renewal for the plate, $66 for 5 yrs, originally $75 for 5yrs. No emission test required as long as you're not in Phoenix or Tucson, then every vehicle (truck, car, bike) must be smogged. I've never had any inspection on the Mustang, or my dirtbike which I can now ride legally on the street. Off road vehicles require either off road tag or registration. After 5 yrs (I think) registration length increases depending on where you live. Phoenix was for 2yrs on my truck, now it's 5 yrs in the boonies and no smog, same for all my bikes, except '18 Honda GW.
 

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as for having historic plates on your car, and emissions testing, that depends. if you use the car as a daily driver and have regular insurance on the car, then you have to meet any and all emissions requirements. on the other hand if you have historic plates, and have classic car insurance, and you have a daily driver as well, then you are exempted from emissions regulations. a friend of mine has several cars set up in that manner, including a 68 Z28 camaro, two corvettes, a 71 and a 79, and others.



But does your friend live outside of the Phoenix metro area? It's my understanding there is no exemption inside the boundary for Historic Plates or Collector Insurance. If you live there and your car is newer than 1967 you have to get emissions checked. No if ands or buts.
That is partially wrong. If you have specialty insurance, such as I have on both my 68s and used to have on my 71, you do not have to go through emissions. You do have to go to DMV once with proof of your insurance. Historic plates do not exempt you from emissions testing.
 

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I have a 68 and a 73. I carry collector car insurance on both so no emissions test is required. I live in Glendale. I also have the original plates on my 73 which are mustard with green letters. On my 68 I purchased a set of period correct plates with a 68 tag and paid MVD the additional 10 dollar fee to use the white with black letter plates on my car. To avoid the emission testing all that is required is the collectors car insurance. I don't have any restrictions on how much I drive my car or when I drive it as long as I do not drive it for work purposes. I have driven my 68 to car shows in Washington, Oklahoma and Nashville. Cars are meant to be driven. Also I register my cars for five years at a time and pay a lot less than renewing every year.
 
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