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I was just wondering if burn outs were bad for your car or if they did any damage other then tread on your tires.

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bad is a relative word *LOL*. Starting your car is bad for it. It's a little tough on u-joints and such, but mostly just tough on the tire budget, and the wreckless driving ticket budget :)

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What about rear ends?

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I've had my 67 out a few times this week to work and back. First time in five years. I seem to have a traction problem... In first and second gears...hehe I know it's bad, but WHAT FUN IT IS!!!!

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Burnouts on street tires serve no useful function other than possibly impressing others....*G*
Wheel hop and the attendant shocks to the drivetrain will likely do the most damage to your parts...limiting that will make stuff last a lot longer...

The tire compounds are designed to give maximum traction at a nominal temperature.....

I always advise people racing on street tires to never do more than get the pebbles off the tires and never do water burnouts on them...

When I used to street race, my tires were plenty warm from the drive out so I went right to business...I preferred a car that hooked up and left on people, even those who would eventually catch and pass me....just that image of me leaving on them was enough to gain respect even if my car was slower...

Of course at the track, things are completely different...high gear, 6500 rpm burnouts in the waterbox are designed to get the racing slicks hot, which is where they achieve their best traction...If you'd like pointers on burnout techniques at the track with slicks, feel free to ask...

Oh, and remember, if you will be doing burnouts on the street, especially with a posi, have safety in the back of your mind...I've seen folks off the road and in a field when faced with a traction problem and the car snaps around on them....not a pretty sight...

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Burning your tires is less hard on your tranny than if your tires actually hooked up. By spinning them, you are putting less strain on your drive line (stadick vs. kinetick friction). I hope I spelled stadick right, although I don't think so!

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Yes it's hard on the drivetrain. I've done some monsters and never broke anything as a result (other than my bank account on new tires). I know it's pointless to do it on the street, but it's so much fun. If you start getting into some wheel hop let off the gas immediately. That is the easiest way to trash some parts.

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Bad for the car......
Try being caught by "the man" and given a little ticket for what's called stunting......that's what bad.

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Pat,

Shame on you!! *G* Street Racing brings up a whole different topic. With the absence of race tracks here in SoCal, the street racing scene has grown considerably. For awhile, newer "street" legal programs had been set up at Pomona Raceway, Terminal Island and even junky old Carlsbad. With the closure of Terminal Island, the limitation at Pomona excluding street legal racing and the continued track degradation at Carlsbad, it is no wonder that street racing is as strong as it is today. I must admit that even I have been known to "haunt" some of the secret meeting places late a night. Most impromtu drag strips are located in isolated parts of the countryside or in industrial areas late at night. Still, it is dangerous and the possibility of getting caught (costing considerable amounts of $$$ in fines and impound fees) keeps me away. It is a crying shame that here in SoCal with its rich heritage in hot rodding and drag racing, that there is no place for the youngsters (and some of us "old farts") to "let it all hang out". Maybe I should move up closer to you??? *G*

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Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't build the California Speedway into a multi-purpose facility with a drag strip...

Maybe someone will come in and upgrade Carlsbad like NHRA did when they took over Fomoso...

For the record, I don't advocate street racing anymore due to the strict enforcement of the speed contest laws....back when I was involved, the worst thing the cops would do would be to break up the party and send us on our way....I started racing at the track before people started being arrested and fined...

A lot of the high school kids from the nearby town use the road on one side of my property for impromptu racing since there are few residences on that street for about a mile.....so far, I've resisted the itch to back the race car out of the shop and have some fun with them, although I do occasionally use the street for testing (car is corked up)......I can't lean on it too much because crowned country roads and spools don't mix too well but usually manage to get up to 95 or so in 1/8 mile....that's enough to go through the gears and tell me what I need to know...

At some point, I imagine the only tracks that will be left in the central California will be Fomoso and Sears Point....there is a Carlsbad-like track in Redding near the airport so that may be a third but it's way north....Sacramento is being surrounded by houses and I don't see it last too much longer...maybe they can re-locate to the closed Mather AFB nearby...

And so it goes.....

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Bosscar,
I heard rumors that they might open back up Terminal Island!! Is this true??

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Yes, but it seems like everytime it gets re-opened, the longshoremen manage to get it shut back down!!! Like Pat, I LOVE racing, mainly drag racing. As the owner of many EXTREMELY high performance cars, it is a real pisser not to have a place to go and legally wring them out. They are using Rialto Airport, but only for 1/8 mile which really sucks. They have tried for many years here to get a track going at March Air Force Base here in Riverside where I used to be stationed at. Unfortunately, several city council members have voted it down in an effort to "keep from attracting the wrong element."

I have gone out to the Ontario industrial district late on Friday or Saturday and there are literally hundreds of people out there. One guy has even rigged up a Christmas tree run on a 12V battery!!!! I have taken both my 97 Formula and 99 Camaro SS in the past, but have stopped due to the increasing number of "citizen patrols" (private citizens driving around with nothing better to do than spot drag racers and call them into the police). I remember last summer driving my Boss out, only to be encountered by several police cars stopping and asking what we were doing there. I was told "it would be a shame to impound such a beautiful Mustang" which pretty much scared me from going back to that particular site.

At any rate - I don't know what the answer is. Racing is as American as football and baseball, yet here in SoCal there is no where to legally particpate in my favorite sport. If Terminal Island opens back up "again", you can bet I'll be there....

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