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I am in Miami Fl and hate to purchase a car sight unseen. Might there be someone in the Hamburg Michigan area that can take a look at a car for me?

Thanks in advance.
 

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I'm an hour or so away and have a cousin I could visit in Hamburg. PM me.
 

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Well, this all might be for nothing.

POSSIBLE SCAM ALERT!

The listing has the car in Hamburg Michigan, but I get a response that the car is currently in Miami (Hey, that is where I am!!) and he can not show it as he is currently on an oil rig in Mexico. He sent photos of the car, but did not answer any of my questions about the build or how it runs. The pictures are obviously not from South Florida.
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Yup David, the scam clues are there alright. A small town at least an hour's drive from a major airport for the listing location, then a 1,400 mile change of location (because someone is willing to make arrangements to have it seen), and then someone trying to sell a car while on an off shore oil rig in the first place. Who the hell tries to sell a car this way?
 

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Hi David and thank you for your interest,

please check out the pics. This was my dad's but unfortunately I do not have enough room for her and has to go. Clean title, not salvaged, no liens.

Currently the vehicle is in Miami, FL. Unfortunately I can't show it to you in person because I was just sent off to the rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

I'm using a trusted third-party to complete the sale of the vehicle which makes this a lot easier. They are a shipping and escrow company that reduces the risk of fraud for both parties. The vehicle will be delivered to you and then you have an inspection period for test driving or even to have it checked out by your mechanic. The price includes delivery within the US and escrow fee.

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Roger Sauter
Deepwater Drilling Engineer
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Equinor ASA - Energy Company
 

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I like the details about the engine, but when I asked him for more details, he only sent photos. I see subframe connectors, deep oil pan, 5 lug rims. Looks like its a nice car, too bad it doe not look like its really for sale.


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1976 Ford Mustang Cobra ii

Powered by a strong 393 cubic inch Windsor with a comp cams roller camshaft and. 1.60 and 2.02 valve PRO MAXX aluminum heads. ( makes aprox 450 hp and 480 ft lbs torque) Shot peeened and magnafluxed rods and hypueretic dish pistons (aprox 11:00 to 1 compression ) Burns 92 octance pump gas . Msd ignition system pro billet distributor. Fuel injected with Msd atomic throttle body and fuel pump ( complete system) Transmission is tremec 3650 5 speed.

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Hi David and thank you for your interest,

....I'm using a trusted third-party to complete the sale of the vehicle which makes this a lot easier. They are a shipping and escrow company (Fake company and website that looks real at first glance. Any monies sent go directly to the scammer.) that reduces the risk of fraud for both parties. The vehicle will be delivered to you (No, it won't) and then you have an inspection period for test driving or even to have it checked out by your mechanic. The price includes delivery within the US and escrow fee. (Because sure, why not?)

Roger Sauter Fake name. Any monies sent must be made payable to another name or entity, guaranteed.
Deepwater Drilling Engineer Fake title
BSChE Fake degree in Chemical Engineering
Equinor ASA - Energy Company Real company with over 20,000 employees worldwide one of whom is probably named Roger Sauter but who wouldn't know a Cobra II if it hit him.
David (69GT350H) already caught on to this scumbag. For the uninitiated, see bold italics above. The clincher; Fake "Shipping and Escrow" companies are on the rise in the world of scamming.
 

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Hi David and thank you for your interest,

please check out the pics. This was my dad's but unfortunately I do not have enough room for her and has to go. Clean title, not salvaged, no liens.

Currently the vehicle is in Miami, FL. Unfortunately I can't show it to you in person because I was just sent off to the rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

I'm using a trusted third-party to complete the sale of the vehicle which makes this a lot easier. They are a shipping and escrow company that reduces the risk of fraud for both parties. The vehicle will be delivered to you and then you have an inspection period for test driving or even to have it checked out by your mechanic. The price includes delivery within the US and escrow fee.

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Roger Sauter
Deepwater Drilling Engineer
BSChE
Equinor ASA - Energy Company
Definitely a scam.!!
Once I was interested in a car in EU (I’m also here!) and was the same procedure. Someone would bring the car over to you, you inspect it and if all is fine, then you pay. Of course the transport had to be paid, hahaha.!!!!
Let it go as fast as you can.!

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Definitely a scam.!!
Once I was interested in a car in EU (I’m also here!) and was the same procedure. Someone would bring the car over to you, you inspect it and if all is fine, then you pay. Of course the transport had to be paid, hahaha.!!!!
Let it go as fast as you can.!

Josep
I'm sure in this case he wants payment upfront before he makes the delivery before you get to inspect the car. Truth being, the car will never be delivered, and the seller will disappear with your money.
 

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So now that the seller has stopped responding to me, let me post where I found this car for sale:


And I repeat, this car may not actually exist, it for sure is not for sale. This is a scam listing.
 

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It's probably the typical scam. The scammer "steals" the photos and description from an ad and then he posts a for sale ad on some other website. Since he's so far away from civilization he offers to ship the car to any prospective buyer and then the buyer can look it over and make his decision. Of course the transportation charge must be paid up front. So the unsuspecting buyer sends the scammer $999 for transportation through Western Union, the car never arrives, WU says "sorry", the scammer has $999 in his pocket and the buyer gets screwed all the way around.
 

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So now that the seller has stopped responding to me, let me post where I found this car for sale:


And I repeat, this car may not actually exist, it for sure is not for sale. This is a scam listing.
That whole website looks like a scam.
 

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That whole website looks like a scam.


 

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wow......I am not a mustang guy, but I am a car guy. I joined your forum to thank everyone this guy, Roger Sauter Deepwater Drilling Engineer..... is trying to pull the same scam with a 1975 Toyota fj55.... same name same story different car..... wow!
Thank again
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Good morning fellow car enthusiast
THIS IS A TOTAL SCAM
This is the response I got when I inquired about a 1965 Comet for $9400
Please repost to all site that you maybe members of, let's not let anyone get screwed by this AH.




On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:37 AM Roger Sauter <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi and thank you for your interest,

please check out the pics. This was my dad's but unfortunately I do not have enough room for her and has to go. Clean title, not salvaged, no liens.

Currently the vehicle is in Miami, FL. Unfortunately I can't show it to you in person because I was just sent off to the rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

I'm using a trusted third-party to complete the sale of the vehicle which makes this a lot easier. They are a shipping and escrow company that reduces the risk of fraud for both parties. The vehicle will be delivered to you and then you have an inspection period for test driving or even to have it checked out by your mechanic. The price includes delivery within the US and escrow fee.





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Roger Sauter
Deepwater Drilling Engineer
BSChE
Equinor ASA - Energy Company
 

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I am in Miami Fl and hate to purchase a car sight unseen. Might there be someone in the Hamburg Michigan area that can take a look at a car for me?

Thanks in advance.
TOTAL SCAM DO NOT TAKE THE BAIT
He also wants you to use his fake escro shipping company www.eas-transport.com/how-it-works/
DON'T DUE IT


On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 7:37 AM Roger Sauter <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi and thank you for your interest,

please check out the pics. This was my dad's but unfortunately I do not have enough room for her and has to go. Clean title, not salvaged, no liens.

Currently the vehicle is in Miami, FL. Unfortunately I can't show it to you in person because I was just sent off to the rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

I'm using a trusted third-party to complete the sale of the vehicle which makes this a lot easier. They are a shipping and escrow company that reduces the risk of fraud for both parties. The vehicle will be delivered to you and then you have an inspection period for test driving or even to have it checked out by your mechanic. The price includes delivery within the US and escrow fee.





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Roger Sauter
Deepwater Drilling Engineer
BSChE
Equinor ASA - Energy Company
 

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These scammers are some what stupid , my wife was trying to sell her Toyota Land Cruiser couple yrs ago. We listed on a local web site . A couple days later , I get a call . Guys says I can give you a certified check for your asking price , I said you need to come and inspect it first , he said ok where do you live ? I then ask well tell me where you are right now and I’ll give you directions. He says , I can be there in 20 min’s if you give me your address. I again ask where do you live ? He finally says where he’s at . The idiot was a 2 day drive from us . I told him , I was the county sheriff and He should ask for me when you gets here. Click gone . Never heard from him again.
But what was funny , the next day some guy calls and wants to look at the vehicle , says he’ll be here in 10 min’s knows where we live. It’s getting dark and I’m thinking trouble , so I put my side arm on and wait for him at the vehicle . He shows up with 2 other guys and see’s the bulge under my shirt . He then asks me if I am expecting trouble ? I said we’ll it’s kind of late and I don’t know you from anyone. He says that’s fair , then he pulls out his wallet and there is a State Police badge ! He said are we good now ? Yea I said . They paid cash and left with the vehicle.
 
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Hi David and thank you for your interest,

please check out the pics. This was my dad's but unfortunately I do not have enough room for her and has to go. Clean title, not salvaged, no liens.

Currently the vehicle is in Miami, FL. Unfortunately I can't show it to you in person because I was just sent off to the rig in the Gulf of Mexico.

I'm using a trusted third-party to complete the sale of the vehicle which makes this a lot easier. They are a shipping and escrow company that reduces the risk of fraud for both parties. The vehicle will be delivered to you and then you have an inspection period for test driving or even to have it checked out by your mechanic. The price includes delivery within the US and escrow fee.

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Kind regards,

Roger Sauter
Deepwater Drilling Engineer
BSChE
Equinor ASA - Energy Company
Thank you so much for posting this. I was almost a victim of this scam! The post was for a vintage truck and got the same story about the deal falling through and the truck was in Miami, FL with Pedro Delivery, LLC. The emails was as follows:

Thank you for your interest,


attached you can find more pics so you can better see the condition of the vehicle.

I'm looking for a quick sale as I'm currently in a difficult situation. Please let me explain what happened. A guy from Miami was very interested and I agreed to close the deal with a cash on delivery transaction. The day the vehicle arrived in Miami, he told me that his loan was not approved and the deal is off. The situation got even better a few days ago as I'm currently doing my shift off-shore in the Gulf of Mexico. The shipping company is now holding the vehicle in Miami, FL. The good thing is that they also provide escrow protection for long distance transactions. Basically you get to inspect the vehicle before the deal is closed and I'm protected from buyers who don't actually have the funds to make a purchase.

So, if you want to buy a new toy and don't need approval from a third party, please let me know and I can make the necessary arrangements right away.




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James Miller
Deepwater Drilling Engineer
BSChE Equinor
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Glad I came across this post. I inquired about a '73 Coupe Deville and got the same exact email reply, verbatim, from the same exact con artist, Robert Smith. The email was littered with duplicate even triplicate photos of the car, and knew right away it was a scam. What a crock of crap.
 
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