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hello im a newbie to this site. I just bought back our '67 mustang 289 coupe back from my uncle who just stored it the past 7 years or so. Check out my page its in the works right now ;) http://members.cardomain.com/knightryda510
Any positive suggestions, tips, and comments always welcome. As you can see from the pics I have some rust problems. How should I approach the roof(rust pits) and floor pan rust? I talked to a client from work who is a body shop expert and he says I should sand the roof down to bare metal then bondo it. What should I use to clean out all the dirt in the inner wheel well(fender off)? Oh yea speaking of fender there was light rust under the fender and I used a rust neutralizer. Should I apply anything else after since its just under the fender? I read from other posts people using por15 but I can't find that at any hardware stores here. I live in Pinole, CA. I have several of reference books but I would like to hear some suggestions and results from you all. I appreciate all your suggestions. Im sure ill have more questions down the road.... Thanks again! ::
 

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For some reason I can't get to your pics. As for POR15, it is available from their website and possibly some automotive paint stores. There are other products out there that are similar...Eastwood's Rust Encapsulator and Zero-Rust. Currently I'm using the later two (easy clean as oppossed to what I hear about POR). Sanding the roof, applying a rust preventative, and then using a product like Metal-to-Metal would probably be a better solution than using bondo. Bondo doesn't prevent moisture from getting to the surface. That WILL cause problems later on. I'm sure others will be able to provide additional info. Good luck, and WELCOME aboard!!
Gregg
 

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Hay all I got was porn. :: :: ::.....Billy
 

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Thanks for the greetings and sorry about the site :( hmmm.. the site is down i cant even get to it. please check it at a later time. it was working fine before i posted. As for the roof should I sand it down untill there are no more pits? I think my client was saying to use the bondo for the rust pits.

Itsahipo-what link did i direct you to? can i see?? haha ::
 

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Sand to bare metal....use a wire brush in a drill or grinder for the pits. If you can't get the rust out, use a rust nuetralizer, such as OxySolve, to kill the rust, then treat with a rust preventative coating, such as POR, Rust Encapsulator, or Zero-Rust. Since it's exterior, go thin. Or better yet....if you can, use an epoxy primer to seal the bare metal.
 

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Cool! Thanks Greg! Just one dumb question.. Does the rust preventive coating have to be applied with a spray gun? I know zero rust and rust encapsulator have an aerosol can and it seems like zero rust to be the chepest out of the 3 mentioned. I think ill be getting an air compressor but not anytime soon. Ill look more into it then ill take the vinyl off and carpet and really see what i have to work with then ill decide. Thanks again greg!
On the first fender i used a product on the outer fender called Jasco - Prep & Prime. I used Jasco's adhesiver remover and paint stripper and was satisfied which is why i chose the product. It supposed to be applied overnight and converts the rust to black which is then ready to seal. I then used bondo for a small dent then used an aerosol primer called rust oleum for automobiles. Am I going the right direction? Im beginning to be hesitant now on the next fender since i didnt finish the inner side of the first fender yet..
 

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You can use the spray versions, but if this is going to be under a vinyl top again, I'd probably just use a brush or roller and apply the rust preventative. I have used the spray can (for the backside of the dash), it gives a very nice finish, although maybe a little thin. Using a brush should ensure a thicker coating. I used two coats of Zero-Rust (recommended by them) on the top and bottom of my cowl pan before welding it back in.

Sounds like you moving in the right direction with the fenders. I'm going to use one of the above mentioned rust preventatives, or POR15 inside the fenders. Rustoleum is probably OK for the outside of the fender to keep it covered as long as it's out of the elements. You might then think about removing it later when you're ready to paint. Most people here suggest using epoxy primers. I haven't gotten to that point yet. I've read that it could be applied via a roller, but spraying is preferred. Watch out with it though...toxic....requires PROPER gear for spraying! Good Luck.
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Thanks again Gregg! I checked out your project and your deeper in it than I am hehe.. Your wife will appreciate it after its done.. Hope she doesnt take the wheel from you hehe.. Good Luck and thanks again..

Web page updated!! On page 3 I added a few pics of the drivers side with most of the paint off. Then i became concerned that the rear quarter panel is caked with filler. Im not sure if i should sand it all off and apply new filler or leave it and add additional filler for touch up. Hmmm what are my consequences with these two applications?
 

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Take a look in the trunk. See if you can see why there is bondo there. You may not be able to see from inside if the bondo is low behind the wheel....this area is covered by the trunk drop off. Now that I think about it...regardless of why it was bondo'd, you should probably clean it all off..to bare metal, bang it out if possible, rust treat it, and fill back in with a body filler, preferably not bondo as it actually doesn't prevent water from penetrating it.

You may even find that that part of the quarter should be replaced. I have to do it on mine....but I'm holding off on the outer body work until last.
 

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Ok I found an auto body shop about half an hour away and they recommended a new product from evercoat rage extreme(maker of metal to metal). So i took their advice and i ask them a few same questions i asked here. Now i feel more CONFIDENT on taking action on the rest of the resto! Im going to take your advice gregg and sand it all down to bare metal treat it then use the rustoleum primer (temporary) untill i get a compressor to shoot the real primer on it. This is fun.. all the research and questions.. i cant wait untill i get to drive it! haha :: ill keep you all updated!
 
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