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Cowl Alignment Help Needed

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Hey folks. After a lot of patching and reconstruction work I’m finally getting close to welding in the replacement upper and lower cowls on my 66 Vert. But before I make mistakes I can’t easily correct I have a few questions.

1) In terms of the fitment, what is the best method of making sure everything lines up in the end, doors, fenders and cowl ? Is a test fit with fenders installed the best way. Doors are still on the car.

2) Also is it best to weld the upper and lower sections together first and then weld in the entire assembly.

3) Finally, what is the optimal hole size to use for the several hundred plug welds in the lip of the vents.

Please don’t limit your comments to these three questions as I’m sure there are things to consider I’m not aware of.

Many thanks for the help.
 
Discussion starter · #9 ·
thanks so much folks. This gives a really good strategy. the driver side kick panel guide hole is gone completely because I had to section in a rust patch. So ill Do the full mock up for sure. The doors never did line up with the fenders anyway so hopefully I can correct some of the bad fitment.

Really appreciate everyone’s responses. I would never have taken on this cowl replacement if it was not for the encouragement of this community. And I’m a pretty crappy welder but I seem to be getting the job done, even if at a glacial pace !
 
Discussion starter · #10 ·
1) In terms of the fitment, what is the best method of making sure everything lines up in the end, doors, fenders and cowl ? Is a test fit with fenders installed the best way. Doors are still on the car.
Place your bottom pan in and secure with a couple sheetmetal screws, then top pan. Put on entire front end (fenders, hood, doors etc) and adjust from there. You really want the car at least loose assembled so you can get the gaps right.

2) Also is it best to weld the upper and lower sections together first and then weld in the entire assembly.
No. Weld the pans in separately. Bottom pan to the car first then top pan to that (after the above step has been done and your reference points noted)

3) Finally, what is the optimal hole size to use for the several hundred plug welds in the lip of the vents.
I used a Harbor Freight spot hole cutter to make the holes in the new cowl. Same one I used to remove the factory spot welds.

You can see my cowl job in the link below.
Thanks for the link Excelr8. And amazing job on that coupe. couple of questions. What did you coat the bed of that lower cowl with ? And regarding the mock up, my export brace was a good 1/4 to 3/8 wider than the shock tower holes in terms of lining up. So there has definitely been some deflection or some collapsing over the years. How will this effect if at all the mock up ? Well I guess I should mock up with the export bracing installed.
 
Discussion starter · #12 ·
Thanks, I’ve got a little more reconstruction to do in the lower windshield corners and the step where the cowl assembly rests on. But then I can start mocking things back together. Thanks again to everyone who replied.
 
Discussion starter · #13 ·
Always assuming you have the lower cowl in the correct spot There are alignment holes on the cowl(only pic I have illustrating them):


I have the extension dropped through the alignment hole on this side while matching up the windshield line. I also used the fenders to make sure everything looked like it was supposed to, didn't have a hood at the time, but no issues test fitting one later. I will qualify this with the fact that while I used an aftermarket lower, I restored the OEM upper cowl and re-used it...so I couldn't speak as to how aftermarket cowls fit.



Also, the export brace holes are used for alignment purposes up front.
Thanks Wicked for the images. Man that is an extensive job. I think I’ve elected to do more patchwork than you. We’ll done !
 
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