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I cannot believe what I have done. I sit here after getting teary-eyed at what I have done. After waiting since Sept or october to save up the $$ to get my C-6 rebuilt, and getting it back this week, I have managed to crack the case trying to put it on. I am still in dis-belief. I cannot tell you how much frustration and despair I have right now. sigh. See the Picture below to see the damage I have done.

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All I was trying to do was snug it up to the engine....I am guessing the torque converter was hanging up inside....man o man....

I am assuming this cannot be welded up, and that I will now have to gut my newly rebuilt tranny and find a small-block case c-6 housing.

geez. so much for race day on April 7th.



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That is a shocker, Bad luck man.Keep your chin up.

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That housing can be repaired by a competent aluminum welder. I would at least give one a shot at it and spend the money to let him try. You could even add a couple welded flat bar straps joining the parts together after welding the crack. It will have no bearing on the alignment as long as it is fit back tightly and the other undamaged housing pulls up snug to the engine block. You may have to file fit the damaged flange to get it to pull up properly and even may have to shim the damaged section at the bolts but it can be done safely. Just be sure the torque converter has dropped in all the steps before pulling up again, but you probably know that. A small block c-6 housing isnt the easiest to find.
 

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Wow, I wish I could come up with some answers as far as repair options...But it seems to me that a Junkyard core would be the way to go. Maybe somebody else can give you a yeah or neah as far as welding...but the bellhousing is supposed to be relatively precision for purposes of drivetrain alignment...so I would be suspect of any repairs without subsequent machining. I wish I had some way to help...but alas all I can say is that "this too shall pass".
 

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Isn't the C6 a cast iron case? If so, would that have a bearing on weldability?
 

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Aluminum case.....I've got a welded up spare one in the shop...

Nowhere near as bad as his....that'd probably require some machine work to make right....it may have been weak already...

IME, it takes some heavy duty tightening of bolts with a bound converter to do that kind of damage...

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Tough Break. Did you start out with a wide gap to close up?

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BETTER CHECK THE FRONT PUMP GEARS THE INNER
GEAR IS WHAT THE CONVERTER GOES INTO LAST. THIS
GEAR CAN CRACK WHEN THE CASE IS PULLED UP IF YOU RUN THE ENGINE WITH A CRACKED GEAR IT WILL
CHEW UP THE PUMP AND FILL YOUR NEW TRANNY FULL OF METAL. SORRY YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS IT IS A COMMON MISTAKE. ROB HUNT 18 YEAR FORD TRANS TECH. [email protected]
 
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I have a C6 from a 73 convertible that I parted out last summer, if you come and get it, it is yours free. How far is Toronto Ontario Canada from Illinois. I can only imagine what you are going through, I hope that this helps you out.
 
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Mike, Don't feel too badly man. I did the same thing to a small-block c-6. I had mine repaired (heli-arc?). Good luck and don't worry. It'll work out.

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Well, I am 500 miles from Detroit. Thanks for the offer though.



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It is alluminum.

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Pat,

I am glad to hear that at least there is a Chance of some repair. I was using my 3/8 ratchet and I was nowhere near what I thought would be a breaking point. I had also just spun the torque converter to align the bolt holes..... I was Shocked to hear that "snap!" . I am starting to think there was a weak spot. I guess it is a moot point now.


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Yes I did. NEXT time, you can believe I will get it closed up without using bolts to pull it in.

BTW...your Picutre brought a good laugh to my bad day. :)

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Rob,

I will be sure to check it out real good. Is this something I can check without a tranny teardown?

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OH NO!!! That sucks the royal you know what! Man if that was me, the wrenches would have been flyin'. I can't imagine the feeling that you must have felt when you heard that 'snap', probably the way I felt when I heard a snap while driving my old '83 GT and heard a 'snap'. Only when I looked under the hood, I saw my crank hanging out of the engine. Not a good day.

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TO COMPLETELY INSPECT THE PUMP IT SHOULD BE REMOVED AND DISASSEMBLED. THIS CAN BE DONE BY
STANDING THE TRANSMISSION VERTICALLY IN A TRASH
CAN. I WOULD TAKE IT BACK TO THE SHOP THAT REBUILT IT AND TELL THEM WHAT HAPPENED THEY WILL PROBABLY LOOK AT IT FOR YOU. IF YOU ARE COMING TO NORTH TEXAS ANY TIME SOON I WILL LOOK AT IT FOR YOU, IT WOULD COST A LOT TO SHIP IT HERE. THANKS ROB HUNT AAA AUTOMOTIVE
 
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Did nearly the same thing 6 months ago except my pump gears cracked before the case. I posted requesting help because the tranny wasn't pumping fluid. Turned out I messed up the pump and had to put another $400 in it.

I've learned tranny's should go on WITHOUT any need for pressure (if you can't do it by hand, it's not lined up).

Good luck.

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