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as most everyone knows that i was going to buy a 67 coupe.. well today the car got sould out from under me... at a higher price... but still it was sold out.... has anyone ever had this happen to you? i'm so mad right now.. i've made myself sick... i hate dishonest people that do this.... rrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Yes its happened a number of times. You always run the risk unless you have a deposit and a signed agreement as to price, deposit, balance and when the deal will be completed. And then its not always guaranteed.

It is not unusual to show up to look at a car and have the owner tell you someone called/is on their way/coming by tommorrow to buy the car. The offer then is always "you haven't taken any money", "you don't know if they will show up or come through", "I'm here and ready with cash"

Hopefully the car was local .... its when they are hours or days away that they really hurt :(

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Yea I know that story. I found a guy at the Mass-Air Experts who was going to sell me the entire interior from another 76B Convert. And the guy sold it to another guy in the same state FOR THE SAME MONEY!!!!!!!!!! He just got it faster!!!!!!!!! He had no explaination, other than he got his $$$ faster!!! What an idiot! The man's word was worthless, and if you can't relay on a mans word, what good is the man????????
 
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Sorry for your loss.

It really sucks when people do you that way. My dad bought a piece of land adjacent to their lot. He discussed it on the phone with the guy the agreed on a price. Another neighbor got wind of the deal, called the guy and offered him a significant amount more. With nothing on the table and nothing in writing, the guy turned the other neighbor down, and sold to my dad. There are not many people left like that anymore.

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That happened to me also......it was a 67 fastback project. I had been talking to this guy for a while about the car, getting more and more interested. So, I come home one day, and I have an email waiting for me saying that the guy's brother had sold it to some other guy for the same price! I was so angry. I think it was somebody on here, so if you read this, no hard feelings. It just happens sometimes. Oh well, I finally have a Stang.

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ya but now this throws me off the entire vmf scene.. the 68 will be too costly just to put back on the road.. and there aren't very many classics around here.. and i'm strapped for cash.. what the guy did was wrong.. but i'd rather use words stronger than wrong

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Oh, that sucks. You could always stay on the VMF without a Stang. I just got mine a week ago, but I have been on the VMF for a lot longer than that, just to talk about Mustangs and learn more. Sorry, and good luck.
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I bought my 66 coupe for 1500 dollars from a classic car dealership, however the car was only there on consignment. So the salesman called the 80 something year old woman on the phone, right in front of us, and she accepted. So after i spent 500 dollars on new sheetmetal, etc while i was waiting to go pick up the car, I got a call saying the woman backed out on her agreement. Boy was i furious...... luckily after some "encouragment" she accepted our offer. The moral of the story--- ALWAYS put a deposit down, if something happens youre legally entitled. I hate dishonest people
 
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The flip side of your problem is: the guy who says "yes, I definitely want it, I'll be down there in 3 days to pick it up", then stalls for a week or two, and finally either stops returning your calls/emails or lets you know that he "found something local" or something similar. I learned many years ago, when selling stuff thru the local trade paper, that someone's promise/agreement to buy something is only as good as the money they've put in your hand. How did I learn this? By holding stuff for people, saying "sorry it's already spoken for" and then having that person not follow through.

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The first car I looked at after I decided to buy a Mustang was a beautiful 66 coupe . The car I would have built if I was going to restore a car. If you know what I mean
The car was on consignment, the dealer was asking A$29000 . I asked around and everyone said it was about $5000 to $6000 over the odds. So I let it go. Somebody paid the money.
Any way the car turns up 6 months later back on the market at a different yard. The bloke who bought the car decided he wanted a Cobra kit car????
Still asking $29000. I tracked down the owner , did a deal with him over the phone for the right price.
Was to pick on the following Monday.
On the Saturday the dealer sells the car to somebody else for more than I offered.
Buy the time the dealer takes his cut , the seller gets less than I offered , the buyer pays more than he had to , I miss out on the car I wanted and the only winner was the dealer.
Then to rub salt into the wounds the guy who bought the car joins the Mustang club I'm in. So every meeting and run I see this bloke driving my car(sort of)
I was dark!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope somebody reads this after all this bloody typing.


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I been on other side of the fence when trying to sell a car. Someone calls and wats to see it. They never show or if they do they will leave to get the money and never return. They is no good total way of solving this. I even had a 100 deposit (check that the person put a stop payment on and backed out of the deal). Now I would only take a cash deposit.


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Happened to me once 25 years ago. A 66 El Camino a friend of a friend had in his garage. Was sitting there for a long while. Parents making him get rid on it.

I offered money. He accepted. I left a deposit. Told him I would have the rest of the money next payday. I go back on Friday and he had sold it to another friend who "needed a car right then" .

Oh well. He was the brother in law of a close friend so I still see the turkey every once and a while.

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Kind of interesting that I happened to see this post today.

I just delivered my '97 Z-28 vert to the new owners and watched them drive it away. The new owner is a 16-year-old from Florida whose grandfather bought him the car. He first called me last fall and I wrote him off as a dreamer, given all the junk responses I was getting from the Internet ad. But he persisted and, in February, his grandfather sent me a deposit check. The car was snowed in its garage at that point, so we agreed on an April delivery. Well, February through April is prime-time for selling a convertible and I must have turned away half a dozen seemingly serious buyers since the car was on deposit.

Today, the kid, his grandfather, his brother, and his aunt arrived from Virginia to pick up the car and they turned out to be great people who will give the Camaro a good home. So I'm glad I honored the deal, if only because I believe that integrity is the one true possession we have that no one else can take away. But there were a lot of flakes along the way and they make it hard to believe in the serious buyer, especially if there is no money on the table and they are taking their time about following through.

So if you are seriously interested in something, back up the interest with a deposit and signed Purchase Agreement, then do your part to close the deal quickly. Remember, everyone presents themselves to the seller as a "serious" buyer, but the true serious buyer is one who's done all his/her thinking beforehand and is ready to execute the sale. If you haven't reached that point, the seller really has no obligation to accomodate you, especially if it means turning down a serious buyer with cash in hand.

I couldn't tell from your post if you had placed a deposit on the car. If so, the seller should not have sold the car out from under you. If you did not, then the seller did not sell the car out from under you since you had no real claim on it. I'm sorry you lost out on it, though, and hope you find another one soon.

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Over the years I have sold a few specialty cars (Baja Bug, Trans AM, Vintage Cadilacs, and even some Mustangs). One thing I have found is that a lot of people will waste your time, and promise to get back with you in a couple of days. They almost never get back with you. What I do now is say that is great, and for $100 cash, I will hold the car for you for 2 weeks, and I'll put the agreement in writing. That way if they wasted your time, at least you have the money to run the ad in the paper again. I have never had anyone not follow through once they have the $100 committed. When I just bought my 66 GT Mustang, I was the first person to see the car. It was a great car, perfect body, great engine and a 4 speed. He was asking $6500. I took $400 cash and a contract that would give me time to pull the loan together from my credit union. He was excited because he got full price, and got to cancel the ad out of the paper and he knew that if I had $400 into it, I was not backing out. It is just a fair way of doing business for both the seller and the buyer.

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i found a 69 convert for 4k a few months ago. he said he would put a clutch and water pump in it and paint it. i was to pick it up the next week. i called next week, it wasn't ready. i kept calling for 6 more weeks while i rented a car to get around. he kept reassuring me that the car was mine. i finally found my 65 convert and bought it. that guy cost me a lot of money and disappointment. unfortunately, your car is gone. there is nothing you can do about it so, let it go. something else is in store for you. there are always going to be those kind of people in the world. don't let them have power over you by letting what they do effect you. tomorrow is another day and this too shall pass. good luck

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