I just had exhaust installed on my stang. I had 2 1/2 all the way back with a crossover pipe, and dynomax super turbos. 300 bucks. This is all behind a cleveland. To say the least, I am not happy with the superturbo's. I put them in because I have not seen a negitive review of them on VMF or stangnet. The mufflers are to quiet and are only noticeable to me above 3500 rpm. Even then the sound is thin. I dont really have much of a cam so that could be it too. I guess Its the old farts that love em. I want the damn thing to sound mean. The sound I really wan't is that kind of hollow mopar sound of the 340/360's I hear at the track. Does anybody know what im talking about? Mopars have that distinct sound that sounds so nice at idle. Anyway, I didnt go with flows because the cost. Im looking for new mufflers. I want to be able to listen to tunes and also have a sick exhaust. I though the ST are the happy medium but I was wrong. Looks like Im gonna have to get some Flows 50 series? Is there a cheap clone of this? 80 bucks for a muff is too much. Thanks for the help, J.