[ivygreen65]

There is a 66 GT convertible listed on ebay. The VIN shows it is a C-code car, but the seller is listing it as "the nicest GT available". I e-mailed the seller to see if he was going to say it was an original GT, and his response was that in 65 and 66 you could take your car to the dealer and have a GT made out of it. I think this is misrepresentation, but before I went any further I wanted the opinion of this forum. Currently the car is selling at over $17,000.00.

65 Mustang Convertible 289 C-code
Ivy Green with Ivy Gold & White Deluxe Interior
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[Kelly]

I think that he's correct in stating that cars could be dealer optioned with GT stuff, but to me it wouldn't be a real GT.

If it could be proven beyond a doubt that it was dealer optioned with verifiable paperwork from the era, then that might be a different story.

Anyony else know anything about this practice?

P.S. At least the guy is being up front about it not being a "factory" GT.

Dang! Just when I got used to being "strange", I became a "newbie". Now I'm a "tire kicker"....thump, thump.....he he

 

[Guest]

I agree with Kelly. A factory GT is rarer and that's why people pay more for them. A dealer GT is a "make a GT" and anyone can make one.

Adrien.

 

[whizco]

I agree with the above post about factory GT's, but it would be interesting to see if he actually has verifiable invoices from the dealer back in that era to show the dealer installed options. If so it might increase the value a little because of the original ford parts that would have been used(not as much as a factory GT) Otherwise it would be no more than a GT replica that anyone can make.

If I was interested, I would want to see original dealer invoices!

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[Hottarod]

For somebody who doesn't know enough to decode the vin they will think its a GT and somebody may even buy it thinking its a GT. To me theres only one GT and thats one that rolled off the Ford factory assembly line with the GT stuff and the GT vin. Anything else is not a GT and it dishonors and insults the real factory GT's that people have preserved or restored. I don't think Ford would have condoned the practice of dealers faking up GT's to sell more cars but its likely that some of them did. They no doubt got near GT prices for these things too when in fact all they had were a few cheap bolt ons to flash them up some.

Its dishonest and fraud as far as I'm concerned. I have a problem with any kind of rebadging of a car. I'm perfectly proud of my 65 2+2 without having to put fake emblems and stickers on it. If I wanted that I'd just buy a ricer, LOL

Ok, I'll slide my soap box back under my chair now, LOL.


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[johnpro]

I agree with everyone else, so far. Either it rolled off the assembly line as a GT or didn't. If it didn't, IMHO, it's not a GT and never will be!

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[Guest]

I agree with everyone that it is what it is and you can't change that.

However...when it was sold new, I doubt that the Ford Motor Co., or the dealer, was making much distinction between factory GT and showroom GT---they were happy to take the buyer's money, and the buyers were happy to drive off in a GT. Win-win.

It's kind of like the difference between a 1964 1/2 and a 1965. Fact is, ain't no such animal as 1964 1/2, EXCEPT that we have decided to make the distinction, 35+ years after the fact.


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[rmarks]

I agree too. It's a misrepresentation to say "nicest GT". Yes It could be a dealer installed GT package, but even if it did have the dealer paperwork showing so, it's still not a true GT; it's a 66 convertible with GT equipment. The seller should be up front with this and not be misleading. As they say "buyer beware". It may be a nice car but it's not a GT and therefore the price should reflect that.

Rich
1966 Mustang GT convertible

 

[Guest]

I agree a GT was made at the factory, not the dealership, I think by using that sellers logic, I could call my C code convertible with 4 speed and 289 HiPo fender badges a genuine HIPO car-I mean it has the badges.(I added them only because I always liked the look of them-but you wouldn't believe the number of people who come up to me at shows and at parking lots and ask if it is a real HIPO, standard air cleaner and blue valve covers and all).I did one time own an interesting 66 Fastback, it was a very late production, July car, vin number was 6F09C 700000's range, it was a factory 4 speed disc brake car that had been rescued from a junk yard where it had sat for years after a wreck, I always figured that except for lacking the 4V engine, it was as close to a GT, without being a GT one could get, so I made it look like a GT, many people always thought it was-for the most part the novice car people in my area think all Fastbacks were GT's it seems.I made clear when selling it what it was, a great car, but not a real GT.

1967 S code GT Deluxe Coupe 65B
1966 Convertible 76B 289 4 speed
1964 Fairlane 500 2DR HT-the new project
1986 Jeep Cherokee 4X4 the "beater"
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[Kelly]

Another good term is "factory air". I think MOST of these cars had air added as a "dealer option". And usually the original invoice would have shown that fact.

Dang! Just when I got used to being "strange", I became a "newbie". Now I'm a "tire kicker"....thump, thump.....he he