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About to install a retrosound front dual coil speaker in a 65 mustang. What do most people do, install it on top of the dash or underneath it?

On top would make it much easier to remove in the future if needed. On top is also the way Ford did it, but this speaker is definitely thicker than the original. I test fit it, and it seems to fit , but I don’t have the dash pad in place. I had to trim the mounting tabs to fit but that was needed for both top and bottom mounting.



 

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You do know that both the speaker and the defroster ducts were installed after the dash pad, right?

And yes, both on the top.
 

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"And yes, both on the top."

Yup.

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Thanks guys, yes I do know about the dash pad first. Just trying to mock up everything to ensure it fits. Way easier to do it all with the cowl out. Once all the wiring and A/C, radio etc are finished I weld the cowl back in. Windshield and dash will wait until after painting, then all the final goodies will go in.
 

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Installing on top will ensure that the anti-rattle foam strip does nothing...if you do install on top, see if you can remove the foam and put it on the bottom(or find some other foam to serve the same purpose)

P.S. I am making assumptions about the purpose of the foam strip...seems logical to me though.
 

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The foam or paper gasket is to stop sound from looping from the bottom side of the speaker around to the top side of the speaker and cancelling bass frequencies.

Flade if you spend a little time sealing up all the openings on your dash and use two way tape to seal the vent openings down around your speaker you will reap the benefits of much better bass response
 

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The foam or paper gasket is to stop sound from looping from the bottom side of the speaker around to the top side of the speaker and cancelling bass frequencies.

Flade if you spend a little time sealing up all the openings on your dash and use two way tape to seal the vent openings down around your speaker you will reap the benefits of much better bass response
Thanks good to know. Which openings are you referring to? What do you recommend sealing with? Any pictures of what you are recommending?
 

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I am not sure I am going to use the dash speaker when I get around the the stereo system...it puts the right and left sound channels too close together. Not that it is likely you can get a good enough system to differentiate the direction anyway(and wont matter for most songs in any case) but just in case seems better to leave it out and install tweeters somewhere else instead.
 

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I am not sure I am going to use the dash speaker when I get around the the stereo system...it puts the right and left sound channels too close together. Not that it is likely you can get a good enough system to differentiate the direction anyway(and wont matter for most songs in any case) but just in case seems better to leave it out and install tweeters somewhere else instead.

My vote: A set of Legatia X1: smile2:
 

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Just installed/mocked up mine. Issue I had was with the grate that covers it. I had to trim some of the plastic edge off the speaker in order to get the speaker/defroster duct grate to slide in under the windshield.
 

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Just installed/mocked up mine. Issue I had was with the grate that covers it. I had to trim some of the plastic edge off the speaker in order to get the speaker/defroster duct grate to slide in under the windshield.
I installed it tonight for a test fit. The grate sits down snuggly but I don’t have to use any force. Of course the dash pad isn’t installed yet. Radio (Retrosound Detroit) sounded pretty darn good for just that speaker. Overall the radio looks good, and install was pretty easy. It came with great looking original style knobs, but they are too lose and fall off. I may have to open up the ends of the shifts slightly.
 

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Thanks good to know. Which openings are you referring to? What do you recommend sealing with? Any pictures of what you are recommending?

I use dynamat type products to cover holes in the sheet metal or just cover the whole piece if possible. I have a variety of tapes with foam backings to seal speakers to substraints or vents to the dash pad when covering. I also use Tesa double sided tape to adhere speakers that have a large area to fill in flimsy material and the backsides of the vent flanges from sound looping/vibration issues. I have used thick foam for window a/c units to seal defrosters in some projects . If you can seal the speaker face to the backside of the dash pad this keeps the looping at bay too. Spending a little time will reap the benefits
 

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I mounted mine from the bottom with no problems. It was really easy to mount it from the bottom because there's almost nothing in the way. It has been there for years with no problems.
 

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Not really related. But, if you are installing additional speakers in the kick panels and rear. Then just install a mono speaker in the dash. Hook it up with the left plus and right minus. This gives you a generic center channel.
 

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If it has the same speakers with it that I received (generic Chinese computer speakers) throw them away and install good aftermarket 3 1/2 speakers (I used Pioneers).


I only used the bracket. In hind-sight, I could have just fab'ed up a bracket from fiberboard or sheet aluminum.


Combined with door speakers you still get "good" stereo separation.
I then added a single 6x9 in the "Reverb[tm]" speaker hole in the rear package tray for bass...
 

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Not really related. But, if you are installing additional speakers in the kick panels and rear. Then just install a mono speaker in the dash. Hook it up with the left plus and right minus. This gives you a generic center channel.

It also destroys any left/right stereo separation for your radio, and crushes sound quality. "Center" channel is something for 5.1 surround+, and is very different from a "mono" speaker, if you care at all about fidelity and sound quality!
 

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It also destroys any left/right stereo separation for your radio, and crushes sound quality. "Center" channel is something for 5.1 surround+, and is very different from a "mono" speaker, if you care at all about fidelity and sound quality!
Not really. Car stereo guys have been doing this forever.

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The problem you run into is that you hear 'left side' stuff from both your left and right ears at the same time though. Better to plan out your speaker system more carefully than put both left and right channels smack in the middle of your dash to try and fill a perceived hole, in my opinion.

Kind of like the difference between a loud stereo that has very flat frequency response, and a PA system. They both make noise, but you can't rightly compare one to the other unless you just don't care about what it sounds like.

I prefer good stereo separation, myself.
 
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