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In my Mustang at least. Honestly surprised it took me this long. Got me at 16 over and hit me with $150.00. Fortunately it was a camera ticket, so no points. Nice picture of my car though, actually better than the guy taking photos at a recent event I attended.

It was a nice straight stretch of road and for once there wasn’t traffic, thought I would enjoy it a bit. Oh well...
 

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In some jurisdictions "Photo Radar" is used for speed and red light running enforcement. A camera connected to a speed detection device snaps a pic of "the offender" and they mail you a ticket. In some cases, it has been deemed illegal, in others it is allowed. Google it

About 25 years ago a friend of mine driving a company car got popped for 35 in a 25 zone. Before the ticket arrived by mail, he was popped 2 more times on two subsequent days at the same place !!!!!!. As I recall, the fleet manager for the company went in to view the photos but did not recognize the driver in the photo so the tickets were dismissed.
 

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QS66, please explain a 'camera ticket'....LSG
LSG is just taunting you as camera enforcement is not legal here in the mitten (Michigan).
 

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States that have traffic cameras for bringing in Revenue from tickets are total crooks. Studies have been done and its been found that because some people know that the cameras are there it actually alters their driving (not for the better) and actually leads to more accidents... Many states have ditched them just for this reason alone. Only the real "crook" states still have them...

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Interesting enough, the Iowa DOT made Cedar Rapids--notorious for their speed cameras especially on I380 though town--move or shut down a number of cameras because they were not legal. Mostly stuff like within 1000 feet of a speed limit change.
 

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QS66, does the camera photo depict you as the driver? Does the pic resemble your diver license photo? It is the state's responsibly to identify the driver, not your's. I certainly wouldn't cop out to the charge if they can't I.D. you. Just because your car was clocked speeding doesn't mean the registered owner is guilty. I'd talk to an attorney who's familiar with camera tickets in your area. Btw, I've written thousands of speeding tickets.
 

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Does Washington DC have traffic cameras, or were you in Maryland? Maryland has them everywhere.
Oh yeah! In fact the bastards used to have a line item in their revenue projections for income generated by the cameras. Many of the cameras are on the main entrance points from Maryland and Virginia so they can catch commuters. But plenty are in the city too. I’ve received several tickets while driving to my sister’s home in MD. I will say that DC’s cameras usually don’t get you until you’re 10 over. MD I think is 5 or even less in some places.

States that have traffic cameras for bringing in Revenue from tickets are total crooks. Studies have been done and its been found that because some people know that the cameras are there it actually alters their driving (not for the better) and actually leads to more accidents... Many states have ditched them just for this reason alone. Only the real "crook" states still have them...

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Tony K.
AAA has consistently criticized DC saying these are a pure money grab and not improving safety. But of course the city pulls out data that says otherwise. I don’t mind them as targeted enforcement, like in front of schools as they could be effective for that short block.

QS66, does the camera photo depict you as the driver? Does the pic resemble your diver license photo? It is the state's responsibly to identify the driver, not your's. I certainly wouldn't cop out to the charge if they can't I.D. you. Just because your car was clocked speeding doesn't mean the registered owner is guilty. I'd talk to an attorney who's familiar with camera tickets in your area. Btw, I've written thousands of speeding tickets.
The photos don’t show the driver, only the car and the license plate. DC and Maryland have decided that it is irrelevant who is driving the car, the violation goes to the owner. This is why no points are “awarded”. Doesn’t seem right, but local courts have upheld this under challenge.
 

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In some jurisdictions "Photo Radar" is used for speed and red light running enforcement. A camera connected to a speed detection device snaps a pic of "the offender" and they mail you a ticket. In some cases, i has been deemed illegal, in others it is allowed. Google it
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About 25 years ago a friend of mine driving a company car got popped for 35 in a 25 zone. Before the ticket arrived by mail, he was popped 2 more times on two subsequent days at the same place !!!!!!. As I recall, the fleet manager for the company went in to view the photos but did not recognize the driver in the photo so the tickets were dismissed.
I have a friend who drives to the office every day at 5 am, when the streets are usually clear. When she bought a new house happened to coincide with the installation of a new speed camera on her morning route. She received a ticket everyday for over two weeks as the notices were being mailed to her old address. Maryland waived the late penalties but she had to pay a couple thousand in violations.
 

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Many of the states that have it says the ticket goes to whomever the plate belongs. Picture of face not needed. I believe that is why, so far, we don't have in Michigan. They were trying to into passing a law allowing it but I have not heard much. I think a lot of people complained so they stopped looking into it. I am glad we don't have them here.
 

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That's why I refuse to drive in Chicago and suburbs. Cameras everywhere and the yellow part of the light change is as quick as a pro tree!
 

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Arizona had them, and then got rid of them after a couple of years. The trigger for the camera was 11+ mph over the limit, and the driver had to be identified. I was over the limit one time, and saw the camera. I grabbed a large drinking cup that was in the console and held it up in front of my face and saw the camera flash. Never received anything in the mail.
 

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Escort Radar has an app for your phone that will alert you to the location of traffic and red light cams. Waze could also have that data. You can use the Escort Defender app even in states that don't allow a radar detector. There is a subscription for the app but it sure beats being bush whacked by a RL camera and having to pay ticket. Most jurisdictions that use RL cameras have reduced the yellow light times slightly in order to generate more to catch more RL runners and enhance the revenue stream. The fines are then split between the jurisdiction and the RL camera company.
 

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Taxation without representation. Big money grab is all there red light/speeding cameras are for. The city doesn't even own them. A company comes in to set up and they get a large chunk of the money invovled. Then the po po gets their cut. I am so tempted to take a rifle with me and shoot the hell out of those things. Cover up the tag and they will never know...lol
 
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