[Guest]

I would like you to clarify your remark to Napman(?)
about his '68 coupe he just purchased.Why did you
state that would be better suited as a parts car?
Seems to me that sounds like a great ride that
may or may not be a good show car.From what I've
seen in most trade mags 6 cylinder cars can fetch a fair
amount.I'm no expert and I realize you DEFINITLY
have more knowledge than I,but you reply just doesn't make
sense?



"I feel the need..The need for speed"
"Gotta Go,... Gotta Go"
" Think long,Think Wrong!"

Bryan
'68 Acapulco Blue 289
'91 Ford Escort GT
'91 Ford Escort LX 5dr (Wife's)

 

[DaveH]

Nothing against Jeff, but you need to remember that he's from Southern California, where a Mustang "parts car" is one with a little wear on the tires... Mustang values and rarity seem to increase exponentially as one moves away from LA, for some reason -- this same "parts car" might fetch $6-$8K in some parts of the U.S., and more overseas, which is why questions such as "how much is my car worth" are generally impossible to answer accurately on an international forum such as this.

By the same token, Jeff's point about the rarity of any particular combination of options is well taken -- not only did "rare" often equate to "unpopular" with some colors and options (such as the bench seat), but is there really *any* significance to the fact that Ford might have built only three 289 3-speed green Mustang convertibles with brown trim, tinted windows, AM radio, standard belts and a slightly crooked rear bumper? Stretching the criteria far enough can turn *any* Mustang into "one of a kind." Thus, while statistics such as those provided by Kevin Marti are interesting and certainly fun for any owner to know, they're generally no more than that -- "fun facts," not a winning lottery ticket.

 

[Guest]

Dave H,
I don't presume to doubt you,but this particular car sounded
more than a parts car.Anyway thanks for your input.

"I feel the need..The need for speed"
"Gotta Go,... Gotta Go"
" Think long,Think Wrong!"

Bryan
'68 Acapulco Blue 289
'91 Ford Escort GT
'91 Ford Escort LX 5dr (Wife's)

 

[GolfBoy]

I'm a Southern California boy with a daily driver I've had since 17 (24 years now). The daily drivers I've seen on the road are dissapearing quickly. It used to be, I'd see 4 or 5 during my 30 minute commute - now I usually don't see 1.

These cars are becoming harder to find, and people are snapping them up for restoration. Even the little 200 coupes (like my original).


You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me!!!

 

[Jeff_Speegle]

Yes I shoudl explain my comment more. Considering the car, the reported condition and options "I" can see a good use of the car as a parts car. Not to use to restore a daily driver but instead a provider of parts for a high level show car especailly for a Thoroughbred car. Often cars like this are purchased so that they can donate their great parts for a restoration of a car that is in higher demand (one example for this car would be a 68 1/2 CJ coupe I can think of) Often the most difficult parts to find for these restorations are the softparts like the interior.

I hope I did upset any one. And each of us look at the hobby and the choices we face and see through our own experiances and situation. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to explain myself

Jeff Speegle
MCA Shelby Gold Card

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6473
Mustang & Shelby research, documentation

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[Guest]

jeff,
you got me curious now... what is that pic in your sig line?

~Chris
San Antonio, Tx
66 coupe 289
70 fastback done by may/graduation...hopefully

 

[Jeff_Speegle]

Its a modified 66 fasback. Front end is one of approx 50 kits built in 67-68 (approx 13 original ones around today and a few reproductions) Kits were poor sellers since few owners wanted to take a new Mustang and personalize it that much and they were not cheap buy 60's standards. Company, located next to the San Jose factory and in Germany would ship the kit or have them installed. The came in two styles - conventional like the noraml Msutang with the hood separate from fenders and a Competion style with tilt front end. The car had the front end added in 67 by its first owner and I bought the car about 20 years ago. We choose to modifiy the rest of the car to "match" the front end using only parts from the late 60's Some of the more interesting changes (will try and keep it front to back)

Engine - 289 with 302 guts - regular high perforance stuff plus Hilborn fuel injection with handbuilt exterior idle circuit

Interior - Billit dash insert with 67 Cougar guages, dash pad removed smoothed and recovered- 65 Galaxie buck seats, custom door panels made from pony door panels, split rear seat - no heater - no radio- no rear view mirrors inside or out- 67-68 steering column and a bunch of other changes

Body - Fiber Fab ET front end - fibergalss flaired rear fenders - Spoilered trunk lid and end caps - 67 GTO taillight panel narrowed 6" - rear valance w/ lic plate bracket removed and panel louvered- exterior door handles removed - 66 Shelby side scoops and quarter windows added - Wheels American Racing wheels - rears rear mag wheels (what a pain)

Drive train - top loader 4 speed - 2 speed 9 inch rear end providing BOTH 3.00 and 4.11 through the use of a Hone-O-Drive

There are more pictures of my cars and a couple of the others at my site - Should find time to post pictures of even more of them

Jeff Speegle
MCA Shelby Gold Card

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6473
Mustang & Shelby research, documentation

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1609818&a=12284202&p=44925357&Sequence=7&res=high.jpg

 

[Guest]

Jeff,
Let me clarify my postion.I didn't understand your position(explaination). I Didn't realize a car of this "shape" (sounded good to me) would be used as parts car.I figured a car of lesser shape maybe a donar car.I did not mean to offend or challenge your opinion just trying to understand it.As you are an MCA judge I was interested in your explaination. I don't have much experience in the hobby and consider you and a few others opinions as hobby worthy info.

"I feel the need..The need for speed"
"Gotta Go,... Gotta Go"
" Think long,Think Wrong!"

Bryan
'68 Acapulco Blue 289
'91 Ford Escort GT
'91 Ford Escort LX 5dr (Wife's)

 

[Jeff_Speegle]

Donor cars come in all shapes and configurations. People building high end show cars often, at times, are forced to find parts where ever they can. For example, buy a nice original GT and remove the interior and styled steel wheels. This is not to say that the donor car is then scrapped but instead the parts are replaced with reproductions and the car resold, hopefully at close to the price paid. Back when the hobby was young this was the only way to get many of the parts since few were reproduced. I remember buying a decent 65 GT only to remove the styled steel wheels and the AM/8track and sell it the next week.

In other cases top winning show cars are often stripped of the hard to get parts and replaced with reproductions or original parts of lesser quality before they are sold.

In older cars 4 doors are often used for the same purpose, to provide parts for higher demand cars.

Is my explaination clear? I truely want you to understand I was not "putting the car down" but stating what I saw was a possible application for the car and its parts.

Jeff Speegle
MCA Shelby Gold Card

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6473
Mustang & Shelby research, documentation

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[Jeff_Speegle]

Just a little correction, important to only those who hope that someday the state is divided in to two states, I live in the northern half

Jeff Speegle
MCA Shelby Gold Card

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/6473
Mustang & Shelby research, documentation

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