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Thanks! Glad you could visit :)

I've been out your way a couple times......... like the country but just can't stand the humidity and lack of BIG Mountains ::
 

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This might help some of you locals:

y'all (yôl) also you-all (yôl)
pron. Chiefly Southern U.S.
You. Used in addressing two or more people or referring to two or more people, one of whom is addressed.
Regional Note: The single most famous feature of Southern United States dialects is the pronoun y'all, sometimes heard in its variant you-all. You-all functions with perfect grammatical regularity as a second person plural pronoun, taking its own possessive you-all's (or less frequently, your-all's, where both parts of the word are inflected for possession): You-all's voices sound alike. Southerners do not, as is sometimes believed, use you-all or y'all for both singular and plural you. A single person may only be addressed as you-all if the speaker implies in the reference other persons not present: Did you-all [you and others] have dinner yet? You and you-all preserve the singular/plural distinction that English used to have in thou and ye, the subject forms of singular and plural you, respectively (thee and you were the singular and plural object forms). The distinction between singular thou/thee and plural ye/you began to blur as early as the 13th century, when the plural form was often used for the singular in formal contexts or to indicate politeness, much as the French use tu for singular and familiar “you,” and vous for both plural and polite singular “you.” In English, the object form you gradually came to be used in subject position as well, so that the four forms thou, thee, ye, and you collapsed into one form, you. Thou and thee were quite rare in educated speech in the 16th century, and they disappeared completely from standard English in the 18th. However, the distinction between singular and plural you is just as useful as that between other singular and plural pronoun forms, such as I and we. In addition to y'all, other forms for plural you include you-uns, youse, and you guys or youse guys. Youse is common in vernacular varieties in the Northeast, particularly in large cities such as New York and Boston, and is also common in Irish English. You-uns is found in western Pennsylvania and in the Appalachians and probably reflects the Scotch-Irish roots of many European settlers to these regions. You guys and youse guys appear to be newer innovations than the other dialectal forms of plural you. See note at you-uns.
 

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That there's some mighty fancy words to describe a li'l ol' thing like "y'all".

We should meet sometime at the 12th Ave Cafe in Issaquah. About the closest to Suthun breakfast food I've found around these parts.
 

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ROFLMA........... Hope that was a cut & paste job Dan, and not something typed from off the top of your head :p
 

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You and you-all preserve the singular/plural distinction that English used to have in thou and ye, the subject forms of singular and plural you, respectively (thee and you were the singular and plural object forms).
So, According to this, You/Thou and Ye/Thee were distinct. But, it seems to me that it is equally possible that the difference between the two is the use of Thorn (It looks like a Y) to represent the Th instead of spelling it out fully. This is the reason for "Ye Olde Worlde" spelling. The Ye is actually the word The spelled with a Thorn (Y) instead of a Th.

Nope, I'm not a linguist, just an interested party...

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Actually Dan....thats only half the story. Theres more.... Even though "ya'll" can mean singular as well as more then one....they've slanged it with "all ya'll" which is definitly plural.... :: ( cute little texan gal explained it all to me) ;)
 

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Actually Dan....thats only half the story. Theres more.... Even though "ya'll" can mean singular as well as more then one....they've slanged it with "all ya'll" which is definitly plural.... :: ( cute little texan gal explained it all to me) ;)
Nope. First off, it's "y'all", never "ya'll". Second, "all y'all" is only used by someone trying to sound Suthun. Take it from someone bahn and raised in the South.

She may have been cute, but she was a Texan which explains a lot.
 

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Be sure and tell all them furiners about the year around rain and other horrid weather we have up here . Low 80s & <30% humidity is best kept a secret . ;) ::
 

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Hey Lman, looks like I kind of hijacked your post with my smart-ass reply. Sorry about that :eek:

Anyway, you're right, most of us up here in the northwest feel blessed to be living here, although after 8 months of dreary gray skies we sometimes question that!

This summer my family and I took a driving vacation through your neck of the woods. We loved Tenessee! Unfortunately, the day we chose to go hiking through Smokey Mountain Ntl Park it was so foggy we couldn't see a thing!
 

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Followup....

Just thinking about it for a moment. In a Suthun accent, r's in the middle of words sometimes change into l's; e.g. that large South Carolina city is "Chalston".

Also, I've sometimes heard the verb fall out of "How are y'all doin'", and become "How y'all doin'".

SO, if someone with a deep Suthun accent said that phrase correctly, it would sound like "How all y'all doin'"!
 

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but she was a Texan which explains a lot
Well then.....I stand corrected ;) I can't say one way or the other about Texan's in general....But there is something a little intoxicating about them Texas fillys... ;)
 

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What's the problem? I didn't say Texans weren't cute.

I lived there for 16 years, got out as soon as I could.
 

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But there is something a little intoxicating about them Texas fillys... ;)
Huh? I like my Uncle Fil and all, but I never found his stores "intoxicating".
 

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I'm just hasslin' ya. Actually all of Shannon's "cute little Texan" cousins use "all y'all". They're Texan born and raised. Whatever...I'm from here. I just use "sure" for everything. ;)
 

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Hey Lman, looks like I kind of hijacked your post with my smart-ass reply. Sorry about that :eek:...... Unfortunately, the day we chose to go hiking through Smokey Mountain Ntl Park it was so foggy we couldn't see a thing!
not at all! Im enjoying the way this is going ;) Fun thread!

RE: fog, yes, it gets right foggy in that area a lot. Me and the new missus honeymooned at the Biltmore Estate, and we continue to travel/visit all along that region.

Id chat more but Im fixin' to go.... ;)
 

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... "right" foggy ... the new "missus" ... "fixin'" to go...
Man, your just a glutton for punishment aren't you Lman! Now, where was that on-line dictionary ...
 
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