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Now that I've got the engine repainted, I'd like to know what kind of stickers I need for around the engine. All I have right now is the "289-4V" for the air cleaner and the sticker for the right shock tower. I know that sticker placement was not always the same, and looking through parts catalogs doesn't necessarily tell me how many stickers were around and where they were. Isn't there a "front" air cleaner sticker? I've read about some sort of spark plug sticker, too... ?

Anyone have any pics of original/unrestored engine compartments? 1965, of course. :winkgrin:
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I have found out that sticker placement varies quite a bit for air cleaners depending on build date and plant. What is your build date and where was it built?
 

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Check my sig. :)

Build date November 30th, 1964 in San Jose.
 

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Sure Charles will add his 2 cents.

I would expect (since the car is a non-AC car) Service decal on drivers shock tower, Cubic inch decal on air cleaner, Sparkplug/service decal on air cleaner, breather decal drivers valve cover and battery check decal over the starter solenoid

Sorry don't have any original, with decals, V8 engine pictures from that period handy
 

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I have some pictures of an unrestored 65 San Jose engine compartment I can send you tomorow.
 

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Always, in general, be careful about collecting information from one source IMHO. Especially older printed material. Any of us that have written articles realize that we always learn more and unfortunately the printed word is out there for ever. And no real way to correct it.

On this particular article I can quickly see at least 6 things that appear to be incorrect. Also since it is 20 years old the MCA rules it references have had numerous updates/changes
 

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I second that! I'd like to know of the 6 differences. Thanks!
 

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Sorry should have posted that at the time. Was a little pressed for time but I was at work .... though I was suppose to be off today. Not sure I came up with exactly 6 ;)

Some of the issue stem out of the fact that when the article was written decals were acceptable in place of stampings

Picture #5 - a decal should not be used but instead an ink stamp should be

Picture #6 - a decal should not be used but instead an ink stamp should be. Reproduction decal carries a production date of 1970 (can't remember which month at this point)

Picture #7 - a decal should not be used but instead an ink stamp should be

Picture #8 - Not an incorrect decal though the color of the design differs from different factories and years. Remember to correctly fill out the decal if you’re going to apply it. And even these checks were notated differently from factory to factory from what we can tell

Picture #9 - a decal might likely be the best choice out there other than a really nice original or NOS one. Original did not use a decal but was printed on the aluminum tag

Picture #11 - in truth not a decal but debossed label

Picture #12 - a decal should not be used

I'll leave it to Charles to comment on the FRONT decal I know there has been much discussion of this decal. I can't say I've ever seen it after mid 65.


General comments for others-

We are discussing 65 Mustangs and other years and factories will differ.

Unfortunately many Mustang shops sell kits that include a bunch of decals. So owners often figure that if there in there I must need them.


Once asked on of the big suppliers of reproduction decals about a specific decal that was incorrect. When I asked why they produced them and sold them for Mustang I was simple told that they made them because people bought them.
 

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Even late Dearborn 65's have the FRONT decal on the air cleaner.Both my June cars have it.I also have pictures of an Aug.65 car with it.My aug.64 car also has the decal
 
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As Jeff has said, there is inconsistency between the assembly plants and then inconsistencies during the production year.

The more un-restored cars I see, the more I realize how little we know about small items such as decals, paint marks, inspection marks, etc... It's not good enough to see a '65 Dearborn Mustang built in June '65 that does not have an oil filler cap decal and assume all others didn't. In fact, we know there are plenty of earlier and later examples that had the oil filler cap decal.

It's really difficult for some owners restoring their cars when a lot of original details have been lost over the years, due to repaint, part replacement or whatever. In those cases, you depend on information made available to you. Unfortunately, most times the information is wrong or incomplete and an owner doesn't find out until they park their fresh pride and joy out on a showfield.

Anyway, the point is, we don't know all there is to know about these type things. We depend on information gathered over the years to make "best guess" determinations. We continue to learn more about these cars and do our best to keep the rules updated when we find or learn new things. Wish I could give a better answer.
 

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If there is so much variation between factories and build dates. why do we care if it is exactly the way it was since no one really knows how it was? To me as long as it is similar to something we know was done then it shouldnt really make a diffrence. :naive:
 

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I believe there are a number of us working to document those differences so that we can help owners and judges. If we continue to " similar " is good enough and other building car copy that one over and over again we loose those specific differences.



One of the reasons I travel a fair amount (allot more after the first of the year ;) is to document and share the differences associated with San Jose cars. It been really challenging over the last 20+ years seeing (for example) 66 Shelbys built in the northeast that look more like NJ built cars rather than San Jose.

In addition my therapist says its good for me ;)
 

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Does anyone have a placement for the decals on a 67 289 manual no ac car?
 
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