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Hi, I was thinking about putting on a pertronix ignition in my 66 coupe. I have heard good things about it, but have a couple questions. First of all, what kind of a power increase am I looking at? horse power wise. Would it even be noticable? Second of all I was wondering if a novice with cars could install something of this nature, because I'm not too handy with tools yet. Thank you very much. OH, one last thing, how much did you pay for yours? if you already own one. Thanks again for your time.
 

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Hardly any horsepower gain, you probably won't notice anything. Except it may start quicker & run a little smoother. Installation is simple, with good instructions. I paid $60. from NPD. It is recomended to add a performance coil & wires. I went with Accel. I believe I paid $30 for each.

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I didn't see much improvement in horsepower with just the ignitor.... but the fact that I never have to change the points again is enough. You can install it in less than 30 minutes and I think I paid about $50.. I also installed the "Flame Thrower" coil that they make and the car seems to respond better now... you can see picture on my website..Good Luck

btw.. I carry a set of points in the trunk just in case the ignitor goes out..

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I agree with the other posters. I bought mine for @ $60 and installed it in less than 30 minutes. The new wires and coil are also easy installs and you won't regret it.

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You might want to look here;

<http://members.tripod.com/~COSA4U/pertronix.html>

Whoops! sorry about posting in the wrong place.

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I'm sorry, but I have been plaugued with the stupid desease. Can someone please explain to me what points are? sorry.
 

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Points are little contacts inside the distributor that make the engine fire in time. There's also a condenser that goes with them. That's what you'll be replacing. It's not hard. There's just two small screws for the points & one for the condenser. Plus adding a round piece around the distributor shaft, then setting the air gap. There's only two wires to hookup. Both go to the coil.

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PonderosaMustang has the ignitors for 55.00. Installation is simple, but you will need to re-time the car after installation. The main advantage is that you won't need to set the dwell again.

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With my mustang as a daily driver I would go thru points quite often. The cheap points hardly had any longevity so I would buy the accell points. These lasted a little longer and did provide good power but like most points they would eventually fade causing the car to get worse gas mileage and lower power (at 15 bucks a pop it also gets expensive). Points also make an extra variable when having engine rough running problems.
After switching to petronix you will always have constant reliable ignition. It should have been one of the first things that I did to the car but I put it off. When I finally put them on I never looked back. You will see an improvement in gas mileage also.
 
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i agree with the other posters here, this is a simple upgrade that reduces your headaches in the long run. Although i wouldnt claim a HP increase, the ignition is much stronger now than it was with the points installed.
Be aware that the unit requires about 10V to operate and it may or may not work by just wiring it in as a replacement to your former distributor wiring. in my case, i had to get behind the instrument panel and tap into a 12V wire from the ignition switch and fish that through the firewall to the distributor - not very difficult, but not a 30min job either. $62 at NPD and i also got the flamethrower coil for $30
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Ditto on carrying the old equipment as a backup. I also have the old coil in the trunk.

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I put the whole setup (module, coil and wires) in my 66' coupe and am extremely happy with how well it improved starting, smoothed out the idle and improved throttle response throughout the rev range. I payed about $100 for the whole thing. Yes, you can definitely do it yourself, but having a knowledgable friend around is always a good idea. On the whole, I would give it two thumbs up...so go for it!

BTW: I just pulled the plugs after 8000 miles on the Pertronix setup, and I kid you not, the plugs look brand new! P.S.: I gapped my plugs at .050 .

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you get NO increase in power over a properly set point system; however, in a point system the rubbing/fiber block starts wearing immediately and you no longer have a properly set point system. with pertronix you have a magneticallky activated system with NO wear to jprovide path to discharge coil which provides spark.
 
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I suggest that you do one thing at a time. Remove the points and condensor, put the ignitor in (snug the wires down so that they are not able to snag on the rotor - else there goes 60 bucks), they send a little plastic part to gap it to the round part that goes over the points cam, tighten it down. Fire it up (don't forget to replace the rotor and snug down any plug wires that might have come loose). Run it awhile, drive it around the block. Then do the coil. Then do the plugs. Then do the wires. If you run it and drive it between each task, you will not have to go back and start over if it don't work. You can just check the last thing you did.

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points are a way to discharge the coil voltage to ptovide a spark across the spark plugs in order to the cyls as provided by the distributor. the points need a gap at nominally .039 which is sensitve to amount of spark provided. the fiber block in the distributor wears and degrades spark. in the pertronix the points are replced by a magneticallly generated signal driving solid state electonics in the module which provides the ground path fo the coil and no precise gap is needed. in your pertronics kit you get a spacer to locate spacing (nominally .030 i believe) of module distance to pickup rotating piece.
 

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You should reset the timing after installing the Petronix, as the dwell is now certainly different than using points. Once you get the timing set, you shouldn't have to adjust either dwell or timing for a long time!

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