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Should the pilot bushing be flush into the crank? As you can see mine is not. It is seated all the way in. I cleaned out the space and put some anti seize on the bearing. Then used the correct sized bearing driver and tapped it in as far as it would go. It appears even across the face. I put the engine plate and flywheel on and the bearing didn't stick out above the fly wheel. Is it OK?
 

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Put the pressure plate in place up against the flywheel and check it against the pilot. If you have clearance there, you're good to go.

I think it'll clear

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Should the pilot bushing be flush into the crank? As you can see mine is not. It is seated all the way in. I cleaned out the space and put some anti seize on the bearing. Then used the correct sized bearing driver and tapped it in as far as it would go. It appears even across the face. I put the engine plate and flywheel on and the bearing didn't stick out above the fly wheel. Is it OK?
That's a pilot bearing, not a pilot bushing.
What manufacturer and part number is that one? I work for a bearing manufacturer. I can check out the specs against
a 5.0 bearing (.....which does go in all the way until the flange touches the crankshaft).
I haven't seen one that far out of the crank before. That's my commentary.

Use of a bearing in that location is better than the original pilot bushing..... just in the ease of transmission installation alone.
Bearings are more forgiving compared to the OE bushing.
 

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Sorry, got the terminology now. I’ll check and see if the part number is on my invoice.
 

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It looks odd but it's about normal.
After seeing one too many chewed up input shafts I've gone back to using oilite bushings. I've no idea how a bearing would be more forgiving or make an install easier, I really don't. The idea of the pilot bearings is less drag on the input shaft which makes for smoother shifting. So they say. Through my personal testing with my naughty T5 speedshifting habits, I can't tell any difference so I go with the version that is kinder to input shafts. An additional benefit to me is I have a tool that will pop out a bushing in about 60 seconds whereas the bearing style is always a struggle to remove. Just saying, either style pilot will work fine.
 
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You should be fine. I think mine was flush but if it's fully seated you're good to go. I know you're concerned about the input shaft pushing against it but I doubt it will. Looks fine IMO.
 

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It looks odd but it's about normal.
After seeing one too many chewed up input shafts I've gone back to using oilite bushings. I've no idea how a bearing would be more forgiving or make an install easier, I really don't. The idea of the pilot bearings is less drag on the input shaft which makes for smoother shifting. So they say. Through my personal testing with my naughty T5 speedshifting habits, I can't tell any difference so I go with the version that is kinder to input shafts. An additional benefit to me is I have a tool that will pop out a bushing in about 60 seconds whereas the bearing style is always a struggle to remove. Just saying, either style pilot will work fine.
Shoving the transmission in place with a bearing, there's always more leeway getting the input shaft lined up. It's a torrington-style
roller. There's a lot of slop.
A pilot bushing is never as "loosey goosey."
Last time I swapped toploaders, I pulled the 5.0 pilot bearing out of my crankshaft and substituted an OE pilot bushing. I discovered
it was an act of congress to get the transmission lined up at just the right attitude and bolted back in place. It was probably the 4th
or 5th time I've swapped transmissions in the car in the past 35 years and was noticeably more of a hassle.
 

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I guess I've missed out...I've never experienced trouble stabbing a transmission into a pilot bushing. Its always gone in just fine for me.
 

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Different people using different equipment in different circumstances I expect will have different experiences. In my years of removing and replacing transmissions, sometimes two or three a day, it has been my experience that bushings are altogether easier to deal with all the way around in many vehicles and in particular small block Fords.
I'd say anyone who hasn't had trouble stabbing a transmission into a pilot whatever hasn't done too many. :giggle: One lesson is to take your new pilot bearing/bushing and check it for size on the input shaft before happily beating it into the crankshaft. Ask me how I learned that one.
 
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So i spoke to my engine builder and my transmission specialist I bought the T5 kit from. The engine builder said it CAN stick out about a 1/16" or it COULD sit flush. He has seen both. He said to try and seat it with a bigger hammer, soooo I took a BFH and tried to seat more and it was a no go. Its seated all the way in. It is a bit more than 1/16".

My transmission guy said it should be flush. I mocked up the bell housing with the engine plate and installed the trans. As you can see by the pics, the input shaft has some clearance and isn't close to bottoming out.

I should be good to go , correct?
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I doubt it'll be an issue.
I've never seen one that didn't fit flush but others on here apparently have.....
We had a special two finger puller that threaded onto a slide hammer. That's how we got those out.
(We would have just pried the bugger out if it presented that opportunity)
I never liked that puller tool..... almost lost my front teeth once. Learned to stay well clear.
 

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thanks everyone! (y)
 
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