1966 Mustang 289/306 3spd coupe, 1966 Mustang 289 C4 coupe, 1965/64.5 Mustang 289 4spd convertible
That would mean '67. Some (read most) were poorly stamped originally and some are down right gone if the block was ever decked on a rebuild. The blue item looks to be a spacer plate. Cool 9 23 65 date stamp I think. The black item is the inspection cover.Mine is not as well stamped, but I can tell the first character is a "7".
Thanks for this. I have the C4 auto, so I must need the /3/4" depth unit.Before you go out to find a new starter, you may want to read up on this thread: (or one like it)
289, 3speed manual all factory bell housing and flywheel. The first starter died and caused some teeth to be chewed so I replaced it. The second worked for about twenty runs like the first and is now doing the same thing. It stops at the same place each time so the car won’t start. I bought...www.vintage-mustang.com
A lot can happen in 50 years, so do not assume what it was is what it is.
A lot of sobbing and tears have followed with that assumption.
The 7F14 says 289, not 302. But someone who, in 1976, cracked their block on their 2 year old 302 could have grabbed this block from the salvage yard, tossed the "old" rotating assembly, and put in the "newer" 302 guts. Heck, it could be a stroked 347.
Do you have a flywheel or a flex plate? Do you have, or had, a starter for a flywheel or a starter for a flex plate.
Do you have a block (also called a spacer plate).
A lot of rabbit holes to run, but washers on the starter and shavings in the bell housing (or torque converter cover) cries pay attention now or pay $$ later.
I get that - just wondering why I don't have either of the two standard depth dimensions. Autos are supposed to be 3/4" depth ring gear with a 4.084 starter registry hole in the block plate (per Powermaster's starter tech bulletin). My hole diameter is 4.084, but the depth is much shallower at about 5/8" (see photos above). When I pulled the starter, there were washers used as shims (about 1/16") in place... I must have an oddball...ALL SBF with Automatic transmissions take the same starter (Lester 3205/3168).
Probably an odd-ball ruler.....Thanks for this. I just wish I know why its an oddball depth...
Thanks for pointing out what should have been obvious to me! I've tapped it back into place. Gear turns ok and on the bench I can't detect any wobble. Probably prudent to get a replacement at the parts store. Ttucky thing is will I have to shim it as well?You have another problem it looks like. Is that the bronze bushing that has walked out the end of the starter housing that supports the bendix/armature? If so, then the bendix (aka Starter Drive, thing with the teeth) is wobbling around in there and probably cause a lot of problems. It might have allowed the bendix to walk forward into the ring gear, so someone shimmed it with a washer.
Look at the pics W427 posted. You need a long nose it looks like.
That core (or at least the nose) is probably trash. There is probably more experienced people here than me, but I have rebuilt several starters on a bench (when I wanted to keep the original) and had very good results replacing bearings, bushings, brushes, etc. You just have to do it before the starter has a major failure and destroys something.
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