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Has anybody seen refurbished engines at advance auto parts or pep boys? Obviously they are not hipo, but im sure you could modify it before installing it. Do you think they are any good, like is it worth getting one of these for like $1000 or rebuilding a 289? Vavle covers and little things could be swaped, but in the llong run, would you expect a new engine to hold up better?

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That goes for me too.... I've been pondering the same quandry...

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Years ago when swmbo had a Corvette the mechanic that worked on it told me those engines were crap. He said he's seen several people put them in restored vettes and when taken apart for a rebuild saw some pretty shoddy work.
 

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Very simple rule to follow, "you get what you pay for".

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I'd only buy one if my motor blew and was going to unload the car! Did you ever read the "ingrediances" in one of these P.O.S's? They re-use valves, valve spring, rocker arms ect., that's how they keep costs down.If they're doing that kind of sh*t with the parts, I'll have to agree with one of the other posts about the machine work. No thanks!

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I wouldn't waste the money to go look at one of those engines.Your best bet is to rebuild what you already have.That way you can be assured that you are getting back exactly what you brought in. Most, if not all, of the assembly line rebuilt engines are made from pieces of various engines. Also, you have an idea of what the history is on your engine(i.e. wheather or not it's been abused or blown up or over heated) With an assembly line engine you don't have that knowledge. I build engines for a living and I have seen some of the crap that those kind of shops put out and it's not pretty. Believe me, they WILL use just about anything. I've seen a 302 block once that had been hand grenaded and had the bottoms of two cylinders busted completely off . What they did was put in two sleeves and call it good when the block should have been scrapped. Not to mention you don't have a choice as to what sizes the engine is machined to (i.e. rod,main and piston bore) Quality of the parts is another issue to consider. Like I said, I do this for a living ,so maybe I am a little biased But I believe that you could do much better having your engine rebuilt by a competent ,reputable machine shop.It may cost a little more to do it this way but the money you'll save in the long run will more than make up for it.

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The only decent thing they do to those motors is clean them so they LOOK good. Basically they are built to run just long enough to satisfy that little warranty they give you.

Based on my experience with "economy" engine builders I would avoid it. Just my $.02

If you are looking for a good shop that does great work I can recommend Speed-o-Motive in santa fe springs CA. They ship anywhere and the motor they did for me was awesome!

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For around the same price you can get a new 215 HP 5.0 crate motor from Ford Racing, according to an article I read - I think it was Mustang & Fords, December '00 issue. That's what I have been thinking of doing a few years form now when my motor gets too tired. I'll be going for the 300 HP version though !

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Those cheapo "motor exchange" units are garbage. Just think the word Crate. You generally get a virgin block and new parts cheaper than you can buy them for. Best part is they are already assembled for you. When my 289 goes south I want the 300HP 302 crate in there.

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hey i need my 302 rebuilt how much on average is a basic rebuild for that engine???? it started to knock i think one of the bearings may of went out would i still have to rebuild
 

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On average, I generally charge anywhere from $1000-$1500 for a basic 302 rebuild depending on the condition of the core I receive from the customer. Performance mods and parts go from there. That includes all necessary machine work and parts.

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