[daveoxide]

What the heck? Ok, my starter in my 67 is on its way out the door. I bought a new/rebuilt one for a manual transmission car, which is what I have. Put it in, and the housing rubs on the flywheel, the snout is too short. The old starter that I took out was for an automatic, longer snout, and didn't rub. Why does this not work?

I will return the new one and get a starter for an automatic transmission, but it bothers me on why this happened. Any idea? And the part number matched when I compared it to starters in my mustang catalogs.

Dave

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[i967mustang]

Hi, the only difference I have ever heard of in starters was there were 2 or 3 different starters for six cyl engines but didn't know there was a difference between stick and auto. John

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[Opentracker]

On small block fords they made two starters. One for a stick and one for a auto.
The ring gear on a auto is farther away from the starter than on a stick.
Lay the starter down and look at the bendix drive "the gear", if it is back inside
the drive end frame (starter housing) it is for a manual. If it is out in the open, or
you can see it by looking strait at the starter it's for a auto. The auto starter is longer
over all and they do not interchange. If the block plate is damaged the starter will not fit
right and will give you trouble also.

 

[Arto65FB]

Correct, the starters don't interchange as a unit. But you can take the nose cone and change just that. So if you had no problem with original starter, take the nose cone from that and install it into new starter. Better still, is to measure every possible distance and use automatic nose cone and shim the starter so that drive gear goes into suitable depth.

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[Evan]

Arto65FB, I'm going to try that today. I have a hi-torque starter for MT that doesn't fit, but I have an AT starter that works. If it works out, then I owe you one!

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[Guest]

They are right in that there are two starters...but its not just for auto vs manual. The automatic starter is also required for manual 157 tooth flywheels. It sounds like that starter is what you have. just swap it out for a starter for manual 164 tooth flywheel.

 

[Arto65FB]

This is news to me. Thanks. Where did you find this info?

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[Guest]

I was changing a race car over from automatic to manual. the 164 tooth flywheel wouldnt' work with the auto starter. I ran upon a small 157 tooth flywheel from a 289 hipo and that suited my needs better (stock car application). Low and behold the auto started worked with that. All in all, pretty low-tech analysis I know