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Guys,

I'm having issues with original OEM starter fit with my T5 swap. the Trans and bellhousing are out of a 1994 5.0. I have a 1965 to 1973 scatter shield that matches up with the bellhousing (luck I guess) but the OEM starter is clocked too much and the case touches the flywheel so I can't install it.

Would I be right to buy a fox body starter for a 1994 5.0? Since the scatter shield holes match up to the bellhousing, I would think this is the easy solution.... and cheapest.

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What size flywheel are you running, 157th or 164th? Bellhousing has to match the flywheel size. 94 Mustang was a 157th. You can't use 68 manual trans starter for a 157th setup, as it is a different throw depth and setup for the OE 164th.

I believe the 94 5.0 starter should work fine.


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I'm running a 157 tooth 50 oz because my block and crank are from a 1987 5.0. The original 1968 setup was a c4 auto. From what I've read, the auto starter works on both 164 and 157 flywheels, but I'm thinking becuase of the belhousing, that's not going to be the case.

I'm picking up a foxbody starter today. Fingers crossed.

Is the scatter shield necessary? I am dyno'd at 410hp, so not exactly a mild modification.
 

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I have a 1987 5.0 & T-5 trans, I am planning on using a starter from a 1987 Mustang.
 

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I'm running a 157 tooth 50 oz because my block and crank are from a 1987 5.0. The original 1968 setup was a c4 auto. From what I've read, the auto starter works on both 164 and 157 flywheels, but I'm thinking becuase of the belhousing, that's not going to be the case.

I'm picking up a foxbody starter today. Fingers crossed.

Is the scatter shield necessary? I am dyno'd at 410hp, so not exactly a mild modification.
No the scattershield isn't neccessary unless you're doing some sanctioned drag racing and are running 11.49 or faster.
 

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From what I've read, the auto starter works on both 164 and 157 flywheels
This is absolutely incorrect and is exactly what gets people in trouble with starters. The 164T flywheel uses the starter with the recessed drive gear and short nose. The 157T flywheel uses the starter with the exposed drive gear and the long nose.
 

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I too found this out the hard way. If it's 164 tooth a starter from a mid 90s f150 manual truck will fit. Before I found that out I had to shim out my starter with a few washers to achieve the proper depth on 3/4 depth starter.
 

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Yup... correct, a 94 is a SN95. I make that mistake a lot. I’ll have to do some measuring. The block plate is for 1968 to 1973 Manual trans. I goofed when I bought it. But the holes all line up. Do I need to change it out, or remove it? The starter fit snug in the hole and bolted right up.
 

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Yup... correct, a 94 is a SN95. I make that mistake a lot. I’ll have to do some measuring. The block plate is for 1968 to 1973 Manual trans. I goofed when I bought it. But the holes all line up. Do I need to change it out, or remove it?
The bolt holes should line up, but iirc it wont match up to the bellhousing. At least mine didn't I had to swap to the smaller one.
 

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Yup. The smaller late model starter fits. It would only make sense. My only worry is my scatter shield. I really don’t feel like taking everything apart.
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