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The 15" Tire "What is left that's actually good???" Thread

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One of my older threads kind of started in with this, and I thought it better to move to a new thread since the old thread was actually supposed to be about 17" wheels.

So here it is - a thread dedicated to people giving input on the BEST 15" TIRES STILL AVAILABLE AS OF NOW IN 2022.

Let's face it, 15" tires are getting pretty scarce, especially the good ones. Almost every tire is fine for just putt-putting around, but very few are truly good for bailing you out in a hairy situation, and the number is dwindling. So, let's talk about them.

This is not a place for "well they haven't blown up yet, and they are fine for getting ice cream five times a year at 35 MPH or less" tires. This is not a place for "well ten years ago they made these amazing tires and I'm still running them even though they've been discontinued for 10 years" tires. This is a place for us to compare tires that are truly good for driving (street or mild track, wet/dry weather, corner carving, etc.) - or, weigh in if you've tried some absolutely awful tires that you need to warn people away from!

I will start with my data. My car, Jane, a 1966 Fastback. I have tried three tires. I will list their relevant specs, and what I thought of them.

Wheels: 15x6" Wheel Vintiques Styled Steel Wheels, 4.25 backspacing

Tires:
1) BFG Radial T/A. Absolutely the worst and I'm not even going to put its specs here because no one should have these tires unless they are truly only putt-putting around in low-traffic areas.
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2) Firestone Indy 500 Firehawk. Used 2011-2022. DISCONTINUED (which is why I've got this thread going now, actually)
Tire, SizeUTQGLSpeed/LoadRim Width Range "Meas. Rim Width "Section Width "Tread Width "
Firestone Indy 500 Firehawk, 215/65/15500AB95S6.0-7.56.58.566?? (can't find spec)

Feedback: I truly loved these tires. They were very comfortable rides, always confidence-inspiring. They would get a little squeaky on sharp corners but never let go. Never darted or followed imperfections in the road. Wore surprisingly quickly, and got about 40,000 miles out of them, which I didn't really consider to be that bad. Pretty decent in the rain although they would skate in very deep puddles. I took them through the worst monsoons I've ever driven through and they didn't let me down so I have to say I was happy with them. Cosmetically, they were also great, nice donut shape on the narrower wheel (how I prefer it), RWL were great. But alas, they are discontinued. Therefore, they are only included here for a comparison point as a tire that I was happy with.
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3) Cooper Cobra Radial T/As. Used 2022-present.
Tire, SizeUTQGLSpeed/LoadRim Width Range "Meas. Rim Width "Section Width "Tread Width "
Cooper Cobra Radial T/A, 215/65/15440AB95T6.0-7.56.58.46.3

Feedback: I put these tires on in October 2022, and took them to Big Bend for a week (2000 mile round trip). They were... okay. They do not feel planted the way the Firehawks did, although they did seem to break in a little bit and were better on the drive home than the drive out. They may get better with wear but considering that the average vintage car owner rarely puts a thousand miles on their car in a year, it bothers me that these tires (which are geared towards classic cars) should need so much of a break-in period. They are bouncy feeling and tend to wander, especially over uneven surfaces or in high wind. No feedback on rain yet. I'm surprised because the treadwear rating should seem to indicate that they are stickier, but they really don't feel that way. They also run noticeably smaller than the Firehawks (although it might be that the Firehawks actually ran large). Still, they are probably the best for RWL tires that can be acquired at any of the major tire shops.
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Okay, so that's what I've got so far to contribute - not really that much considering one tire is hated, and one has been discontinued, leaving me with only one actual contribution! Lol. But that's where you guys come in.

Next post from me will be a list of interesting 15" tires I've found, and I'd really like to hear feedback from anyone who's tried them - or if you have other tires to throw into the fray, please do!

(I also know that Zray is going to chip in with a plug for the extraordinarily expensive Avons, and he should know that they are no longer listed for sale by Avon in the US)
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What does the back side of the tire look like?

Chris
The back side is also blackwall, haven't seen any of these that are RWL or OWL.

The 20% chance of not buying another set of BFGs, would be a tire that:

Has a plane jane sidewall,
Is superior to the BFGs,
Within the price range of the BFGs
Made in America

I really like my BFGs, but merely suggest that I'm open to purchasing something else if it meets my above criteria.

Chris
Most tires are superior to the BFG's and are actually under that price range.

I have not.

To clarify, the BFGs have minimal "billboard" design on the T/As, making them an easy choice. The General Tire mentioned above has too much going on.

As for sanding the sidewall, not sure I want to buy a new set of tires and experiment on them. Also, not sure if that would nullify the tire warranty.

Chris
My friend has the General Altimax on an MG and the lettering is fairly small and is not something your eyes go to when looking at the car. I don't know why they couldn't have just said General on one side and Altimax on the other though, instead of having to say the brand and tire name twice, so that is a little odd.
The back side is also blackwall, haven't seen any of these that are RWL or OWL.
I realize the other side isn't a white wall, but am wondering if it is a non-bilboard, plain old boring sidewall that could be installed facing out. Or did they do the fancy stuff on both sides.
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Believe it or not, some ugly sidewall designs/patterns are engineered into the tires functionally.

Take for example the Bridgestone Driveguard run flat (recently discontinued). It had a scallop design molded into the sidewall that wasn’t too attractive. Looked like a wavy black stripe around the tire. Check it out online. However, it helped move air over the sidewall as to cool the tire down when it was being driven flat. Friction creates heat which destroys tires and this helped even though it was designed to be driven up to 50 miles with no air.

Some ugly sidewall designs aid in snow traction, some in mud or protection against sidewall damage. The General is a tad overkill, but guarantee there’s some reason, at least partially, behind the busy design. Historically General has always put a very fine multi rib, almost like you’d see when looking at the underside of a mushroom, on their walls. People complained endlessly about having to clean them and sometimes wouldn’t buy just because of it. Real shame cause it’s a great tire.
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Looks like those are RT43's by the tread design? AltiMAX™ RT43 ; https://www.tirerack.com/tires/general-altimax-rt43 I wonder if both sides look the same? 600 AB - 215 sizes are T rated; 600 AA - 225 is H rated.

They were replaced by the RT-45 in General's lineup in 2022. AltiMAX™ RT45 says it's available in Outlined White Letter (OWL) and Black Sidewall (BSW) but doesn't specify if that's in all sizes and no pics of the OWL I can find.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/general-altimax-rt45
Overview review of the R45
You can go the "Showing:" field and change the selection to OWL. The Description for 215 60 15 and 215 65 15 say the style is blackwall though. Its done much like the Michelin Defender LTX MS, so maybe only certain light truck sizes like 235 75 15 are offered with white lettering. Looks like 235 70 15 is offered in OWL, so that must be a larger size thing.

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You can go the "Showing:" field and change the selection to OWL. The Description for 215 60 15 and 215 65 15 say the style is blackwall though. Its done much like the Michelin Defender LTX MS, so maybe only certain light truck sizes like 235 75 15 are offered with white lettering. Looks like 235 70 15 is offered in OWL, so that must be a larger size thing.
I have this tire on my 68 GMC PU (in 235 70 15) with the same white lettering. I find the tire attractive, as that lettering helps overshadow the wavy black stripe stuff.
The 20% chance of not buying another set of BFGs, would be a tire that:
Has a plane jane sidewall,
Is superior to the BFGs,
Within the price range of the BFGs
Made in America
I really like my BFGs, but merely suggest that I'm open to purchasing something else if it meets my above criteria.
Chris
According to TR you can remove the BFG from your list then, 95% of sizes made in MX:
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Is superior to the BFGs, (not difficult at all)
Within the price range of the BFGs (most are <$)
I see a new tire brand in your future ;)
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You can go the "Showing:" field and change the selection to OWL. The Description for 215 60 15 and 215 65 15 say the style is blackwall though...that must be a larger size thing.
Thanks, I never noticed the 'showing', too bad you have to click on every tire to see if it's BW, OWL, RWL rather than list it in the specs list.

On another note I may experiment with sanding the sidewalls of my 13 yo Hankooks before having them removed for new tires sometime in 2023. Now I need to look at some YT vids on how to.
According to TR you can remove the BFG from your list then, 95% of sizes made in MX:
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Is superior to the BFGs, (not difficult at all)
Within the price range of the BFGs (most are <$)
I see a new tire brand in your future ;)
You are correct, I found the same information last night! May have to ammend my criteria to made in North America! lol

My current set was made in the Tuscaloosa plant in 2013.
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The search continues!

Chris
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I am running the Cooper Cobras and have had no issues, rain or shine, they are wearing evenly if at all (none to speak of) in around 8,000 miles and feel about the same as the B F Goodrich blackwall Touring T/A that dry cracked before I wore them out.
Try the Uniroyal Tiger Paw AWP or General Altimax, both of which we have run on my son's 66.
Went from Goodrich t/a to cooper cobra as well. Think they have a better feel and not as harsh a ride.
not sure that either tire is meant for a 110mph sweeper but would give the Cooper a shot…
like kelly, really liked the firestone indy firehawk. Had a set with only about 1500 miles but were
9 years old. probably would have been fine but followed the over 7-8 year replace? Car garaged
for about 7 years…
Diamondback tires have been shaving sidewalls of ugly junk for years. I’m in a street rod club here and the clean, black, sidewall look is very popular on stuff like 32 Fords.
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I don't kow do you guys do it, my tires never get close to cracking from age. Drive them cars!
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I don't kow do you guys do it, my tires never get close to cracking from age. Drive them cars!
I hear ya! I go through 2 sets of tires every summer.
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Bumping this thread.. I bought a set of Vitour Galaxy R1's, they will probably be my rain and limited test and tune street tires. I put 295/50/15 on 10X15 rims in the back and 265/50/15 on 8X15 rims on the front. I am heading to Robling Road Raceway this Friday. I will run them at least for test and tune Friday morning and possibly Sunday if it rains. The other track sessions will be on slicks.. I will let you know
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Bumping this thread.. I bought a set of Vitour Galaxy R1's, they will probably be my rain and limited test and tune street tires. I put 295/50/15 on 10X15 rims in the back and 265/50/15 on 8X15 rims on the front. I am heading to Robling Road Raceway this Friday. I will run them at least for test and tune Friday morning and possibly Sunday if it rains. The other track sessions will be on slicks.. I will let you know
Looking forward to your feedback.
Bumping this thread.. I bought a set of Vitour Galaxy R1's, they will probably be my rain and limited test and tune street tires. I put 295/50/15 on 10X15 rims in the back and 265/50/15 on 8X15 rims on the front. I am heading to Robling Road Raceway this Friday. I will run them at least for test and tune Friday morning and possibly Sunday if it rains. The other track sessions will be on slicks.. I will let you know
Uh, pictures please…
I was looking at some off the beaten path European tire makes and saw that Vredestein offers some Classic series tires in 15”. I can’t speak for the brand or the tires but that some of you here might appreciate some options. In that vein maybe check Nokian for what they may offer.
Spontaneous Combustion and rapid rubber deterioration

If you want decent 15 inch tires you might want to avoid the BFG Redlines from Coker. It's too bad because these are cool looking tires.

This is my friend's Oldsmobile 442's 18 month old spare tire. We have no idea what happened here. The 4 tires on the car seem fine.

Never seen anything like this except for one other time. The external spare on my friends 95 Bronco exploded in the patking lot while eating lunch inside a diner in Texas summer heat.


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👆🏻…scary! They would all be replaced.
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Looks like my 2 front tires. Just sitting in the garage with no engine, trans, interior and they just disintegrated. Don’t get me wrong, they were old, but I’ve never seen one just rip open all on its on. I have other tires that are decades old and they look fine.
Wow! That’s terrifying!
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