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We are often asked our opinions, and I realized that there are some that are so subjective, it's not even fair to offer them. So just for fun, and with the understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beer holder, here are some entirely subjective opinions that I believe very strongly, but in the final analysis, mean nothing.

It should be noted, there's no room for hurt feelings here. I imagine most of you would include "no flame jobs on Mustangs" as one of your strongly-held subjective opinions. I don't care. You're probably right. This is for fun.

What about you? What are your unpopular opinions?

1: Color. Black/Grey/Silver/White. They're sooo boring. Every other car in the world right now is a shade of these 4 colors with very few exceptions. The only way to get away with one of these colors is if you have a brightly contrasted interior, like red or blue. Full disclosure, my car was black with red interior and I changed it to all black with grey flames. You may now throw stones at my glass house.

2: Color again. There's no room in my life for silver blue. It's the embodiment of a 90's Toyota Camry color. Literally every other available color is better. Except maybe Arcadian Blue. Woof.

3. Eleanor. It's over. It was dumb in 1999, and it's worse now. A legacy of a copy of a clone of a plasticky car, with felony VIN tampering and millions of dollars in scammed people (Unique Performance). It's a sad car that is attractive to people who don't know what real Mustangs are. Everything about a stock 67 Shelby is better looking than that turd. Time to bury it.

4. Edelbrock Carbs. They're fussy to tune and even then it's hard to get them to run right. I had a magical 1405 that ran perfectly on a bone stock C-code 289 with an Eddy RPM intake for years. Once I added go-fast parts to it, it never ran right again (until Holley entered the picture). I don't understand why people are so attracted to them. Is it the chrome? I dunno. Get a Holley.

5. Stant lever radiator cap. It's ugly. If you have one, you should remove it and see how far you can throw it.

6. Engine bays that are any color besides black. Just no.

7. Chrome/polished Torq Thrust II wheels. I get why they're everywhere. It's an objectively attractive wheel. Let's all agree to move on and find something else.

8. Plastic conduit on wiring. There are better options. Get some Power Braid from Painless or something similar. It's better in every measurable way, and doesn't look like it came from the 80's.

9. No cowl hoods on (classic) Mustangs. They look great on Chevy's and Fox body Mustangs. They just don't look right on our cars.

10. Paint your pinch welds black! On a light colored car, the pinch welds were painted black from the factory so the ugly pinch welds faded into the background. They did this for a good reason.
 

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I'll agree with everything except engine bay color. My 68 modified fastback is Sapphire Blue and it looks gorgeous with the black engine. Also has the Hertz gold stripes on the firewall.
 

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I'll agree with everything except engine bay color. My 68 modified fastback is Sapphire Blue and it looks gorgeous with the black engine. Also has the Hertz gold stripes on the firewall.
Yeah I actually thought of you as one of the rare exceptions. I'm willing to write in an (unless stripes are echoed in the execution) amendment.

Edit: but 9 out of 10 ain't bad. I expected more pushback right out of the gate. Let's see what everybody else says. :)
 

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What about you? What are your unpopular opinions?

1: Color. Black/Grey/Silver/White. They're sooo boring. Every other car in the world right now is a shade of these 4 colors with very few exceptions. The only way to get away with one of these colors is if you have a brightly contrasted interior, like red or blue. Full disclosure, my car was black with red interior and I changed it to all black with grey flames. You may now throw stones at my glass house.
I like dark metallic reds and will go this route with my restomod.

4. Edelbrock Carbs. They're fussy to tune and even then it's hard to get them to run right. I had a magical 1405 that ran perfectly on a bone stock C-code 289 with an Eddy RPM intake for years. Once I added go-fast parts to it, it never ran right again (until Holley entered the picture). I don't understand why people are so attracted to them. Is it the chrome? I dunno. Get a Holley.
Not necessarily Holle, but Quick Fuel as they are a Holley company. Virtually nothing bad said about the Quick Fuel carbs.

6. Engine bays that are any color besides black. Just no.
Agreed unless you are paying someone to do all the prep on the engine compartment. The high dollar restomods where all the metal is smoothed are an exception.

7. Chrome/polished Torq Thrust II wheels. I get why they're everywhere. It's an objectively attractive wheel. Let's all agree to move on and find something else.
I love the Trans Am look, so 18" mini-lite look alikes for me.

8. Plastic conduit on wiring. There are better options. Get some Power Braid from Painless or something similar. It's better in every measurable way, and doesn't look like it came from the 80's.
When it is time for wiring, I will look at the braid. I am a bit concerned about how to get the stuff over cable connectors though.

9. No cowl hoods on (classic) Mustangs. They look great on Chevy's and Fox body Mustangs. They just don't look right on our cars.
Yeah, a flat hood on the Boss 302 tribute for a clean racer look.

10. Paint your pinch welds black! On a light colored car, the pinch welds were painted black from the factory so the ugly pinch welds faded into the background. They did this for a good reason.
Engine compartment will be mate black, the rest will be body color.
IMO.
 

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I totally agree with you, especially Eleanor. I always, ALWAYS hated the very idea of that piece of crap. And I have a Holley, always used them, never ever had a problem. And anybody who would paint a classic Mustang silver blue should be horse whipped. That's a color for the plastic bumper crowd.
 

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We are often asked our opinions, and I realized that there are some that are so subjective, it's not even fair to offer them. So just for fun, and with the understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beer holder, here are some entirely subjective opinions that I believe very strongly, but in the final analysis, mean nothing.

It should be noted, there's no room for hurt feelings here. I imagine most of you would include "no flame jobs on Mustangs" as one of your strongly-held subjective opinions. I don't care. You're probably right. This is for fun.

What about you? What are your unpopular opinions?

1: Color. Black/Grey/Silver/White. They're sooo boring. Every other car in the world right now is a shade of these 4 colors with very few exceptions. The only way to get away with one of these colors is if you have a brightly contrasted interior, like red or blue. Full disclosure, my car was black with red interior and I changed it to all black with grey flames. You may now throw stones at my glass house.

2: Color again. There's no room in my life for silver blue. It's the embodiment of a 90's Toyota Camry color. Literally every other available color is better. Except maybe Arcadian Blue. Woof.

3. Eleanor. It's over. It was dumb in 1999, and it's worse now. A legacy of a copy of a clone of a plasticky car, with felony VIN tampering and millions of dollars in scammed people (Unique Performance). It's a sad car that is attractive to people who don't know what real Mustangs are. Everything about a stock 67 Shelby is better looking than that turd. Time to bury it.

4. Edelbrock Carbs. They're fussy to tune and even then it's hard to get them to run right. I had a magical 1405 that ran perfectly on a bone stock C-code 289 with an Eddy RPM intake for years. Once I added go-fast parts to it, it never ran right again (until Holley entered the picture). I don't understand why people are so attracted to them. Is it the chrome? I dunno. Get a Holley.

5. Stant lever radiator cap. It's ugly. If you have one, you should remove it and see how far you can throw it.

6. Engine bays that are any color besides black. Just no.

7. Chrome/polished Torq Thrust II wheels. I get why they're everywhere. It's an objectively attractive wheel. Let's all agree to move on and find something else.

8. Plastic conduit on wiring. There are better options. Get some Power Braid from Painless or something similar. It's better in every measurable way, and doesn't look like it came from the 80's.

9. No cowl hoods on (classic) Mustangs. They look great on Chevy's and Fox body Mustangs. They just don't look right on our cars.

10. Paint your pinch welds black! On a light colored car, the pinch welds were painted black from the factory so the ugly pinch welds faded into the background. They did this for a good reason.
Cool post. I actually like cowl hoods if they're not too big.. Other than that I agree. You would have got 1 million extra likes on this post if you had talked about what a POS a MII front end is :grin2:
 

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I disagree with #4

I had to down jet/meetering rods with the factory 289 and had to upsize them with my new 5.0L. It takes some testing/tweaking but each time I have been able to get her running very well and never had to touch it again. I only paid 60 bucks for my 1406 and am very happy with it.

I am sure you will find there will be members that will disagree with at least one point if not more.

Now I dislike flames on any car, but I do like them on yours, go figure!!
 

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Everyone has an opinion but the internet makes it far to easy to express it without any remorse or guilt. Someone doesn't like Eleanor that's there opinion OK. I personally think its a beautiful car. Not everyone likes Teaberry chewing gum is what my father always said. But you always have someone that goes beyond just giving their opinion and has to criticize. That's basically why I stopped posting on this forum. I mean I truly enjoy this forum. If someone has a question or a problem and I can help then I try. But I will never post another pic or detail of anything I am doing again. People should be more careful of how they express there opinions. Not saying in any way that your opinions in this thread are bad. Don't take that the wrong way not criticizing you. Speaking in general from past experience.
 

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Expressing opinions is not a problem. Everyone's got 'em! The only problem is, a lot of people these days seem to think that they can't be friends unless they agree on everything.



I don't mind a bit when someone has a different point of view. If they've got good reasons for it, sometimes I can learn a thing or two! Or, I can disagree. It's even possible I'll decide that person's an idiot. This process of discernment is something we're all supposed to develop as we grow up.


As opposed to walking around with a big gaggle of friends that all share the same tastes and opinions. That's called "girls in high school". *puts on flame-retardant underwear*


;)


(I do TRY to be respectful, even when I disagree. Or think people are idiots. Sometimes I succeed.)
 

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My problem with the Eleanor car is that everyone is turning those beautiful fastbacks into them. It’s a good looking car, but it doesn’t look as good as a fastback or Shelby. What’s really sad is all the fastbacks that were built for the movie and were trashed.
If I had no knowledge of a real fastback or Shelby I would think it’s great, but being a mustang guy I know what it’s based on
 

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We are often asked our opinions, and I realized that there are some that are so subjective, it's not even fair to offer them. So just for fun, and with the understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beer holder, here are some entirely subjective opinions that I believe very strongly, but in the final analysis, mean nothing.



It should be noted, there's no room for hurt feelings here. I imagine most of you would include "no flame jobs on Mustangs" as one of your strongly-held subjective opinions. I don't care. You're probably right. This is for fun.



What about you? What are your unpopular opinions?



1: Color. Black/Grey/Silver/White. They're sooo boring. Every other car in the world right now is a shade of these 4 colors with very few exceptions. The only way to get away with one of these colors is if you have a brightly contrasted interior, like red or blue. Full disclosure, my car was black with red interior and I changed it to all black with grey flames. You may now throw stones at my glass house.



2: Color again. There's no room in my life for silver blue. It's the embodiment of a 90's Toyota Camry color. Literally every other available color is better. Except maybe Arcadian Blue. Woof.



3. Eleanor. It's over. It was dumb in 1999, and it's worse now. A legacy of a copy of a clone of a plasticky car, with felony VIN tampering and millions of dollars in scammed people (Unique Performance). It's a sad car that is attractive to people who don't know what real Mustangs are. Everything about a stock 67 Shelby is better looking than that turd. Time to bury it.



4. Edelbrock Carbs. They're fussy to tune and even then it's hard to get them to run right. I had a magical 1405 that ran perfectly on a bone stock C-code 289 with an Eddy RPM intake for years. Once I added go-fast parts to it, it never ran right again (until Holley entered the picture). I don't understand why people are so attracted to them. Is it the chrome? I dunno. Get a Holley.



5. Stant lever radiator cap. It's ugly. If you have one, you should remove it and see how far you can throw it.



6. Engine bays that are any color besides black. Just no.



7. Chrome/polished Torq Thrust II wheels. I get why they're everywhere. It's an objectively attractive wheel. Let's all agree to move on and find something else.



8. Plastic conduit on wiring. There are better options. Get some Power Braid from Painless or something similar. It's better in every measurable way, and doesn't look like it came from the 80's.



9. No cowl hoods on (classic) Mustangs. They look great on Chevy's and Fox body Mustangs. They just don't look right on our cars.



10. Paint your pinch welds black! On a light colored car, the pinch welds were painted black from the factory so the ugly pinch welds faded into the background. They did this for a good reason.

Not sure if these opinions are limited to style, or anything that relates to opinions we ask each on what to do with our cars, cosmetically or mechanical.

To answer you opinions:

1. Agreed.

2. Eh, sure.

3. I’ve always liked the Eleanor, and still do. I will however concede that it is simply played out. Especially with all the really crappy renditions of it.

4. I never had an issue. I say go on and keep loving them.

5. Eh. Probably have one. I’ll keep it.

6. Black is boring. I like body colour, or even better, a light grey or speckled finish (I’m imagining a racecar style). Disclaimer: my engine bay is satin black. If I ever have to pull my engine, the bay is getting painted.

7. I elevate this to chrome wheels in general. Anything else is better. Torq Thrust style is timeless, but worn. I guess dare to be different?? I have a TT style wheel from vintage wheel works, but in a raw aluminium finish, with polish lips.

8. Agreed. But I’m guilty.

9. Agreed, and I’ve been guilty in the past.

10. Agreed, much more aesthetically pleasing.

To add my own:

11. Stock ride height. I’m all about that low life. Countrymen, we drive mustangs, not 4x4’s.

12. In line with the above, rear (or front) wheels that stick out beyond the wheel well. Even dedicated drag cars. Tuck it in, imho.

13. Chameleon paint. I think it looks gross. Haven’t seen one that looks remotely good.

14. Multiple tail lights on 64-70. As in, each side has three vertical bars, and now you’ve doubled it. Beat. Your. Face.

15. Body coloured bumpers. Just looks ridiculous. The chrome (or any other colour) contrasts nicely on mustangs.

16. EPAS. Love it. It’s awesome.

17. Overdrive. 5 speeds and 6 speeds for life. Just better overall.

18. Rubber suspension bushings. Throw those things as far as you possibly can! Heim joints/steel bearings all the way. NVH is that much more, and I have noticed a better ride and handling because of it.

This was fun. Thanks. You’re a great American, BlakeTX.


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Everyone has an opinion but the internet makes it far to easy to express it without any remorse or guilt. Someone doesn't like Eleanor that's there opinion OK. I personally think its a beautiful car. Not everyone likes Teaberry chewing gum is what my father always said. But you always have someone that goes beyond just giving their opinion and has to criticize. That's basically why I stopped posting on this forum. I mean I truly enjoy this forum. If someone has a question or a problem and I can help then I try. But I will never post another pic or detail of anything I am doing again. People should be more careful of how they express there opinions. Not saying in any way that your opinions in this thread are bad. Don't take that the wrong way not criticizing you. Speaking in general from past experience.


I feel you on this. I was even hesitant to reply to this, but hey, what the heck. All we can do is keep rolling. I hope you would post pics about your car. Love seeing other people’s car. And I can say I’ll be cool if we disagree. It’s all good.


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Colors: Grey needs to make a long overdue exit, fun cars should be fun colors. However, black mustangs look dramatic and convey power (just a pain to maintain). White is elegant but unforgiving of poor lines anywhere.
The silver lining to white is you won't feel blue (or see red) if you get the gaps right, and then you're good as gold. :yoho:
 

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If someone asks an opinion, they should expect to get it.
I have seen some fugly stuff, but sometimes the best thing to say is nothing at all.
If someone asks for help, they shouldn't get smacked in the face with a wet paper sack full of dog crap.
I've had to resist sending a couple of VMFrs a direct message I hoped they had explosive diarrhea and uncontrollable sneezing in a traffic jam in the middle of a mile-long bridge on a hot day with no AC.
We ARE supposed to be helping each other for the preservation and enjoyment of Mustangs, here, right?
To each his own, or buy it from them and do what you want with your own money.
 

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That's basically why I stopped posting on this forum. I mean I truly enjoy this forum. If someone has a question or a problem and I can help then I try. But I will never post another pic or detail of anything I am doing again.
I cut my teeth on forums 20 years ago on a local Mustang board that is/was absolutely brutal. I’m not saying that’s better or worse than here, just different, but it did teach me to have a thicker skin and not take someone else’s opinion too seriously. This place is one of the most friendly and forgiving forums I’ve ever seen.

Expressing opinions is not a problem. Everyone's got 'em! The only problem is, a lot of people these days seem to think that they can't be friends unless they agree on everything.

I don't mind a bit when someone has a different point of view. If they've got good reasons for it, sometimes I can learn a thing or two!
This exactly. More often than not, differing perspectives just make things more interesting. It’s boring to agree on everything, especially in a self-selecting place like this. We all share the common belief that these old Mustangs are worth enjoying, so we’re all on the same page on something already.
 

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Oooohhh, I have lots of opinions and pretty much agree with most of the ones I read on this thread and will add a couple more, I apologize if I duplicate.


1) Ride height - OMG, your Mustang is not a 4X4. Get it where it belongs. You want a little rake - cool. You want it in the weeds - cool. You want to looking like it's ready to crawl the Moab? - NO

1A) Air shocks - No, no & no

2) Project priorities - FFS, don't run out and buy a new set of wheels and tires the day after you drag your project home. It's going to be a long time before you need them and rubber has a finite lifespan. If your car needs bodywork and rust repair, put some steelies with maypops on while you do that. Don't be buying stripe kits, spoilers and upholstery if your undercarriage looks like it's been on the ocean floor with the Titanic.

3) Gauges - what one earth do you need to have 15 different gauges for? FWIW, real racecars don't display info like that. Tach, speedo, fuel, oil, water temp and voltage. Anything else is 99% unnecessary.

4) N50-15/295-50 tires with 185/75s on the front - you know why so many muscle cars got wrecked? That's why. Don't.

5) There is more to life than Torq Thrust rims - branch out

6) Mechanical advance only distributors - 99% of vehicles I see these on don't need them. Vacuum advance is not the boogeyman and eliminating it won't make your stock engine faster - get over your 1975 ideas and learn how it works.

7) MPG - it's not a badge of honor to say your car gets 7mpg - if your cam has less than 230* duration, you suck at tuning. See also #6

8) Windsors are not cheaper to build than a Cleveland - I don't need to buy $2000 heads to make power past 5000rpm.

9) Shop manual - it's an investment and what you should have bought the day after you dragged your project home.
 

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To add my own:

11. Stock ride height. I’m all about that low life. Countrymen, we drive mustangs, not 4x4’s.

12. In line with the above, rear (or front) wheels that stick out beyond the wheel well. Even dedicated drag cars. Tuck it in, imho.

13. Chameleon paint. I think it looks gross. Haven’t seen one that looks remotely good.

14. Multiple tail lights on 64-70. As in, each side has three vertical bars, and now you’ve doubled it. Beat. Your. Face.

15. Body coloured bumpers. Just looks ridiculous. The chrome (or any other colour) contrasts nicely on mustangs.

16. EPAS. Love it. It’s awesome.

17. Overdrive. 5 speeds and 6 speeds for life. Just better overall.

18. Rubber suspension bushings. Throw those things as far as you possibly can! Heim joints/steel bearings all the way. NVH is that much more, and I have noticed a better ride and handling because of it.
Great additions! I have to say, I’m right there with you on most of those, though I have seen body color bumpers work.

This was fun. Thanks. You’re a great American, BlakeTX.
Well thank you sir! Glad you’re enjoying it. That was absolutely the point.

I've had to resist sending a couple of VMFrs a direct message I hoped they had explosive diarrhea and uncontrollable sneezing in a traffic jam in the middle of a mile-long bridge on a hot day with no AC.
Whoah. I will do my best to stay on your good side! Lol
 

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Nothing better than a flawless black car that looks like mirror for the 5 minutes until it's dusty. Chrome/polished Torq Thrust II wheels. Yea, but 17 x 8's come in the perfect 4.82" backspace for 65-66. Mine have the gray centers! I totally agree on the Edelbrock Carbs! I have a 500 cfm one with maybe 300 miles on it for sale. I'll even throw in the complete metering rod, jet, and spring kit.:wink:
 

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Okay, far be it from me to NOT offer my opinion... even when NOT asked (lol).

We are often asked our opinions, and I realized that there are some that are so subjective, it's not even fair to offer them. So just for fun, and with the understanding that beauty is in the eye of the beer holder, here are some entirely subjective opinions that I believe very strongly, but in the final analysis, mean nothing.

It should be noted, there's no room for hurt feelings here. I imagine most of you would include "no flame jobs on Mustangs" as one of your strongly-held subjective opinions. I don't care. You're probably right. This is for fun.

What about you? What are your unpopular opinions?

1: Color. Black/Grey/Silver/White. They're sooo boring. Every other car in the world right now is a shade of these 4 colors with very few exceptions. The only way to get away with one of these colors is if you have a brightly contrasted interior, like red or blue. Full disclosure, my car was black with red interior and I changed it to all black with grey flames. You may now throw stones at my glass house.

If you're going for four colors, lump silver and gray together and add "Camry Blue" (see #2, below).

2: Color again. There's no room in my life for silver blue. It's the embodiment of a 90's Toyota Camry color. Literally every other available color is better. Except maybe Arcadian Blue. Woof.

Ditto. Give "4Runner Green" an honorable mention.

3. Eleanor. It's over. It was dumb in 1999, and it's worse now. A legacy of a copy of a clone of a plasticky car, with felony VIN tampering and millions of dollars in scammed people (Unique Performance). It's a sad car that is attractive to people who don't know what real Mustangs are. Everything about a stock 67 Shelby is better looking than that turd. Time to bury it.

Yeah, right!. I mean, you didn't see everyone in the sixties turning their cars into Batmobiles, did you?

4. Edelbrock Carbs. They're fussy to tune and even then it's hard to get them to run right. I had a magical 1405 that ran perfectly on a bone stock C-code 289 with an Eddy RPM intake for years. Once I added go-fast parts to it, it never ran right again (until Holley entered the picture). I don't understand why people are so attracted to them. Is it the chrome? I dunno. Get a Holley.

Right on. In fact, Mopar used the Carter AVS/AFB almost exclusively during the sixties and seventies just to keep dealer service departments busy.

5. Stant lever radiator cap. It's ugly. If you have one, you should remove it and see how far you can throw it.

Can I include those silly octagonal-shaped ones, too?

6. Engine bays that are any color besides black. Just no.

...and absolutely NO high gloss or clear coat!!!

7. Chrome/polished Torq Thrust II wheels. I get why they're everywhere. It's an objectively attractive wheel. Let's all agree to move on and find something else.

...and let "something else" not be the wheels off your Dad's Grand Marquis...

8. Plastic conduit on wiring. There are better options. Get some Power Braid from Painless or something similar. It's better in every measurable way, and doesn't look like it came from the 80's.

Guilty, but I had some hanging around. Now I'll need to replace it.....

9. No cowl hoods on (classic) Mustangs. They look great on Chevy's and Fox body Mustangs. They just don't look right on our cars.

No outrageous scoops, either, if you still have the original Autolite 2100 underneath.

10. Paint your pinch welds black! On a light colored car, the pinch welds were painted black from the factory so the ugly pinch welds faded into the background. They did this for a good reason.

And no painted bumpers, either! Bumpers were meant to be CHROME! Except the plastic ones.
And remember the old saying....

"Opinions are like a$$holes... everybody has one and nobody wants to see the other person's.".
 
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