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I've seen many car show rants in the past. This car show has been the only one that I attended where I was truly angry and vocal about the outcome.

There was a Mustang class where my friend ('84 hatchback), his dad (modified '73 fastback), a guy with a '67 Shelby clone (the car was for sale), and I were in. Right before the noon deadline two 2003 Mustang Cobra Convertibles pull in. They parked on the opposite side of us by the convertible class. I didn't think much of it untill my friend tells me they are in our class.

These people didn't even clean their cars up. I spent countless hours cleaning mine up. Well these were the typical we have money and are going to win with brand new cars people.

They obviously took 1-2 with the clone taking 3. They started taking pictures with the cars and this guy starts leaning on my car. I told him three times to get off my car. He totally ignored me untill he was done. I said to take their cars back to the dealership Monday and got in my car.

If that wasn't bad enough the chick, who by the way couldn't drive a stick, smiled and waved as I started leaving. At this point I snapped and left a present of burnt rubber. I gotta make sure my car doesn't have posi because she got sideways.

To make things worse my speedo broke on the way home. Good thing I leave next Saturday for college. I can't take any more of this. I hope you guys have had better luck this weekend. Justin
 

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Any show where all the mustangs are against each other will suck . Obviously the judges were young and the newer rice-type Cobra cars touched them better for points . Not to offend anybody with a newer Stang as I like them too , just they should not be in the same class as a classic . It boils down to a rice show IMO , Im sure the show was loaded with Civics and Sentras . Any Judge who likes a Civic more than a Mustang is going to go for the newer car no matter what .
My last show was with my 83 Mustang . I had it converted to look like a 89 GT , swapped the original 4 cyl/4 speed for a 1965 289 and a T-5 . I even swapped the interior for a 89 GT with a 93's steering wheel (airbag) . I swapped the rear axle for a 8.8 and loaded it with 3.73's too .
I broke alot of blood on my car and was beaten by a stock PRIMERED Ford Pinto station wagon .........
That was my last show ... I can truly say I know what your saying .
After that heppened I just started making my car faster and faster :)
I remeber a fine girl telling her boyfriend "You had better outrun his car .... your mustang is waaay better "
His car turned a 13.20 .......
I spanked him by 3 cars :)
I don't think he got any that night :)
 

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Isnt there an age limit on the cars at any of these shows? Even HERE we have shows where cars built after say 1975 arent allowed in. Who on earth wants to see new cars at a show? Go to the dealership.....

Even worse, how pathetic can you be to BRING a new car to a show? I would imagine anyone driving in with a brand new car would be shunned by everyone else. It reflects more on the show organisers/judges aswell.
 

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The funny thing was that a ton of people were looking at my car, taking pictures, and talking to me. The owners of the two new cars were nowhere to be found and very few people bothered to look at them. The judge was even an older guy. I let him know that my car couldn't compete with two brand new cars too. Justin
 

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I'm glad to see guys like you post your experiences at these shows. Your post points out the importance of calling shoever the heck is the so called"organizer" andd getting it straight what the classes will be. Seems like anymore the caller should go so far as to nail it down to "what if no other cars are in my class? to see that you don't get put up against a class you don't even belong in (just trying to save you yoour next bad experience..which is sure to come). Hope you have learned to do what is called "covering all the bases".
Would you of felt OK if you had not even placed up against even competition?. Relax andd temper your expectations next show you enter..go to enjoy what is going on at those events, not so much to go home with some winnings..it's not a casino you know??
I do wish you the best of luck tho and I'm very sure any car you prepped would beat any of mine!!!
 

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Popular vote shows are a waste... but it all boils down to 'who cares?' If you 'win', you get a nifty little cheap, plastic or otherwise, trophy to fill up some corner of your basement. I go to those shows and enjoy them because of the people. That's the fun part. I try to make sure I keep in in context and then it's kinda fun to poke a few jibes at the guys who drove their cars from the dealership to the show. Same thing at the local cruise-ins. I've never understood the guys that bring the new cars, we see those things all over.

I like the way the guy at my office does it - he wouldn't think of 'showing' his 03 Cobra - it's a driver to him. Same thing with the guy who painted my car, Joey, he has an 03 Cobra as well but I can't see him taking that to a cruise-in or car show (doesn't hurt that he has two G.T. 500's he can choose from).

In my perfect car show, there would be one late model class: anything after 73 - that way they could all be grouped together for me to ignore.

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This may differ in different parts of the world, but here California, if you want to have a successful Mustang club, you HAVE to include the new model cars. Since 99% of all west coast shows are sponsored by a club, then most let new cars in. You simply can't have a car club, and allow new cars in the club, but tell them they can't participate in club events.

There's no difference, IMHO, of a guy showing his 2003 Cobra, and a guy showing his 64.5 Mustang that he paid someone else to restore. They are both still nice to look at a car show. The idea of a car show is to go have fun. I could care less wether I win an award, and was surprised the one time I did win one. Go to the shows, enjoy ALL the cars, and just have fun. IMHO, most awards at most shows are very political, anyway. At any show, 90% of the awards go to the sponsoring club. That's just the way it is, because people will vote for their friend's car instead of a deserving car.

It does sound, though, that this particular show that Jcode68 is ranting about was very poorly organized. Under no circumstances, should a classic car and a new car be judged in the same class or under the same rules.

Bottom line is ... go to the shows, have fun, and forget about the rest.
 

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Justin, That's why I've attended ONE show in my life and it will probably be my last. These shows are unfairly judged.
I know how much you love your car and that is what you should be proud of. It's all about who you are and who you know in these small time car shows. 90% of the judges can't change their own oil! much less judge a car.
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Hi Justin,
I just had a similar experience today. My #1 son & I went to a show about 55 miles away from home. Nice turn out but they lumped all the Mustangs in one class. I did not agree with the outcome (my streak has been broken!!! :: ). Oh, well......you & I both know we have nice cars. Don't let it get you down.

I have won some that I may not have deserved. That's a fact. Today, the car did not place in the show. I honestly believe it should have taken at least third. At first I was shocked, then was beginning to get upset but backed off. It's just not worth it. Popular (participant) vote shows can go either way...and for what? Like Bob said, a $3 trophy?

Shake it off and get a good start on your school year. Maybe I'll catch around sometime this Fall!
~jeff
 

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At least we got a good laugh when that lady killed the car twice while trying to back up. Wellendorf even had a trophy made for the best car show helpers, which went to their kids. I'm starting to understand why you don't go to shows around here. Justin
 

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If some clown ignored my asking him to move off my car, he'd be physically removed without hesitation. Some people are just plain idiots.
Then there's the people who bring pets, bicycles, surf boards, crutches, camera bags & big purses, and loose rug rats that climb onto cars.
Now, I attend shows but leave my car at home.
 

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The funny thing is, was that it was a judged show. I can easily see why a 2003 would beat mine....the cars were perfect. It's mostly the people that brought them and how they acted. I liked the atmosphere of the Des Moines show, but the best event all year(besides the corn feed) is the Cruise to the Woods. Driving your car,no trophies, and over 1000 cars. If you haven't tried the Cruise to the Woods, its a great event. I have a flyer if you want to take a look. Justin
 

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Let me know if you go to any shows or cruise nights around Iowa City. I usually go to look if I know when they are at. Like I told Bob, the Cruise to the Woods is a really fun event to go on. I can get a flyer if you want. I thought I got jipped, I can't imagine how you didn't get a trophy. Later, Justin
 

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Thanks for the nice comment about my car! :eek: Yeah...maybe I got 'jipped', maybe not, as the car that won ('00 or later model) GT deserved it. It was a beautiful car. Water over the bridge now!

There are two cruise nights scheduled to be @ the Sycamore Mall in Iowa City Friday, August 29th and again Friday, September 26, 5:30 to 9:30. I'll try to be there one or both (probably the September date) IF I can get my new under dash harness installed (purchased, too ::)..the one in my car has been spliced & diced too much. Lot's of issues and I don't want to break down or worse, a fire. Presently, I stay away from night driving to keep from using the head lights. There's a serious problem in the circuit that is shorting headlamp swiches & voltage regulators.

Yes, e-mail me that flyer for the 'Cruise to the Woods', although there is usually a large contingent that makes the trip from this area (Black Hawk County Street Machines).

Take care!
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Been to a show like that one year with my 67 390 Gt coupe (first year it was done). Weather report didn't look good for weekend,it was a 3 day event (Fri-Sun), showed up Fri. just before the rain, had a choice between entering a strictly 65-73 Mustang class or Factory Ford Muscle 60's- we chose the 60's muscle class- cars had to basically be stock muscle. The car got judged and then rained on basicly straight through to Sunday at about 11 am. We stayed at a campground nearby, nearly had our tent blown away- storms were so bad. By 11am Sunday only two cars had showed up for the class, then at about 11:30 with the sun breaking through the clouds, in rolled two Shelbys and one 68 1/2 cobra jet fastback ( I found out later judging deadline was 12 noon on Sunday-we didn't have to be there until then). Well, they took 1st through 3rd in the muscle class easily- trophies were handed out at about 3 pm, not bad for sitting on the field for just over 3 hours (to top it off- they were trailered- we drove over 2 hours each way). Adding insult even further-the 68 1/2 had no fender vin stampings, and a suspicious looking dash vin (obviously moved around, and one of the Shelby's had obvious past rear end quarter repair (from looking inside trunk it was easy to spot), with time winding down the Judges I think just grouped them together and looked at the nice shiny paint and the grand entrance they made... I don't go to shows like that anymore.
 

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I had a fellow lean on my car one time. I kindly asked him where his car was, and he replied why? I said, so I can go lean on your car. I think he got the point and moved on. ::
 

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Justin what show was it? If it makes you feel any better I went to the Garwin show and only 25 cars showed up. Out of about 40 trophys I got zilch. I did the same at the Ken Wise show last year also. Maybe somebody's trying to tell me something. I got 2nd at the Dewey ford show for the first time. Yep, it must be time for me to retire the car.
 

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Justin is right, Cruise to the Woods is enjoyable. We went last year and, although it was fun, it sure was cold! The weather is a crap shoot that late in the year but the sight of hundreds of nice cars heading down the road is worth the risk. First time I have seen people sit and wait in front of their homes to wave at the old cars. Lots of fun. :: We won't make it this year due to that ugly thing called work.
 

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I agree with Johnpro who cares if ya pick up or not long as you have a good time. :) :) :)
 
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