That's OK, because Fram parts are mediocre

Try Standard Ignition or Borg Warner.

 

Mark -- you're being generous...

 

What can I say, I'm in a good mood...

What do I really think about Fram?

They're crappy parts, sold at SOME crappy stores, by SOME crappy counterpeople (not all are crappy, but SOME of the ones that are just don't know it), bought by people who don't know any better, are too cheap to buy quality parts, or are themselves SOMETIMES crappy.

Did I mention how crappy their parts are?

The above statements are in no way directed at anyone in particular. They are MY opinion based on MY experience with crappy counterpeople and crappy stores in MY AREA!!!

If there are two ways to interpret the meaning of my above statements, and one way makes you feel sad or hurt /forums/images/icons/frown.gif, I meant the other one.../forums/images/icons/tongue.gif

Love,
Mark

 

So autolite is crap too? Becuase Fram is Autolite.

 

Autolite is another division of Allied Signal. I've never had a problem with Autolite products. For that matter, I've never had a problem with Bendix or Prestone products, also Allied Signal. In '99, Allied Signal merged with Honeywell. I haven't used any of these products in the past ten years.

Maybe they've improved the quality of their Fram product line, but I have my reservations.

For routine maintenance of generic vehicles, I'm sure Fram is fine. But for my Mustang, I make every attempt to use higher quality parts.

 

I take exception to the "crappy counterperson." I work at Kragen Auto Parts, and we are niether a "crappy" store, nor do we have "crappy" counterpersons.

How rude.

 

In Canada we have "Crappy Tire". Same routine; Crappy parts, clueless counter people: OK, the stores aren't crappy but most everything else is. Used to have a decent auto supply store here; Drivers Auto Parts; now Parts Source & guess what; owned by Crappy Tire. In fairness to their employees I shouldn't be surprised at the lack of knowledge considering the wages they're paid.

 

Hey I was in a Canadian Tire once. Dated a sweetie from Burlington, ON once. Had to get her some new wiper blades. They had those ok. laugh.

 

I take it Canadian girls are better than Canadian (Tire) parts?!?!

 

Her parts were 100% factory correct. So I would have to say yeah, Canadian womens parts are perfect.

Go figure, If I hadn't lived so far away a few years ago, I might have been living in Toronto now. Oh well. K

 

BTW, you can get a PCV elbow that snaps over the barb on the PCV valve. They come in different diameters, and single/multiple elbows.

 

Where, where?

 

I saw one just now while looking at the PCV valves in my Mustangs Unlimited catalog. It has two branches, not sure what the second one is for, maybe for a charcoal canister. You might be able to find one with a single branch.

When I worked as a counterperson at an INDEPENDENTLY OWNED AUTOPARTS STORE, these elbows were also available thru Standard Ignition and Borg Warner, probably others as well.

Check out the Standard Ignition website. They list four valves (V156, V157, V100, V202)for 65-73 Mustangs (sorry about the formatting):

73 i1V202
72 i1V156
71 Exc.Engine Boss 302 ,429 SCJ i1V156
302 Eng. -w/ Boss Eng. i1V157
429SCJ Eng. i1V202
70 302 Eng. -Exc.Model Boss or Cobra Jet i1V156
-w/ Boss Eng. -Early i1V156
-Late i1V157
351,390,429 Eng. -Exc.Boss or Cobra Jet i1V156
428 Eng. i1V157
429 Eng. -w/ Boss Eng i1V100
429 CJ Eng. i1V202
69 302,429 Eng. -All i1V156
390 Eng. -All -GT i1V156
428 Eng. -All -Cobra Jet i1V157
69-67 390 Eng. -All i1V156 1V157
428 Eng. -All i1V156
68 302 Eng. -All -GT i1V157
427 Eng. -All i1V157
428 Eng. -All -Cobra-Jet i1V157
68-67 289 Eng. -All i1V156
67 400 Eng. -All i1V156
67-65 427 Eng. -All i1V100
65 260,289 Eng. -All i1V157
289 Eng. -All i1V156
352,390,406 Eng. -All i1V100
352,427 Eng. -All i1V156
390 Eng. -All i1V156

They also list a PCV elbow, but I think it is the air cleaner elbow:

72-68 Size 1/2" ID GV3

It's probably better to find a hardcopy of the Standard Ignition catalog. They have photos of their parts in the back. Or ask at your local parts store. A good counterperson will know exactly what you're talking about, know the part number, know where the part is located, and how much it costs....hehe