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Hello everybody. First post on a Ford Mustang site. Looking at purchasing a 67 Mustang Converible. Have been looking at one, but have some questions, no doubt some of you can answer. OK, don't laugh, it has a straight six in it. Have plans to change out the engine to a 289, down the road. I feel comfortable looking over a vehicle for mechanical and structual issues. What I need help with is the VIN. The seller texted me a picture of the clear clean title. The car is a 67 Converible, with the straight six in it. However, if I am decoding the VIN correctly, it says it should be a 67 Fastback, with a 289 2 Barrel. Here is the VIN: 7T02C295230. I haven't looked at the car yet. Haven't physically looked at the VIN plate on the door, or up under the hood. Any ideas? Did the factory make a mistake from time to time? Or, should I run?

Thank you in advance for your knowlege and advice.

Rugo
 
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I'm guessing he's got a title that matches the door data plate, the door not being original to the car. Of course, I could be wrong and somebody could have swapped in a six during the "energy crisis" days of the late seventies..... Get a picture of the left fender apron VIN. That's the "legal" VIN. If THAT doesn't match the title then run the other way.
 
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Bartl,

Thank you for the response. I really appreciate it. I will take that advice. If anybody else has any other words of wisdom, I am willing to listen to anything you have to say.

Rugo
 
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If that is the VIN on the title and the car you are buying is a t code convertible I would walk away. If the VIN you were given is off the door tag, then what Bartl said. In the second scenario you will need to look at the fender aprons...drivers side should be visible, if not there should also be one or two hidden under the fender on the passenger side.
 
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As noted compare the fender VIN (or VINs if you can check both sides) and see what they say. Then spend $25-30 for basic Marti report to verify the car.
 
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Knapper,

Thank you for your reply as well. I thought that I had seen something about another VIN, hidden under the passenger fender. There is a fair amount of real estate up under there. Do you have any idea what area under there I should focus on? No doubt the number will be at least partially obscured by road grime and dirt. Chances are good that I will be trying to locate all of the VIN's in the seller driveway. So, would like to know where the most likely areas are to look for them. Thank you all for your contributions so far. I really appreciate it.

Rugo
 
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dalorzof,

Thank you for your advise. Is the "Marti Report", pretty much the go to company, to find out everything about the life of the car? I have never felt like I needed to go to this extent, when buying a vintage car before. So, thank you all for your patients. I have learned a ton in just a few hours from you guys.

Rugo
 
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awhtx,

Thank you. That does narrow down the search a great deal. Now, I can do that. I know that I have said this already. But, I really want to thank all of you for you help, guidance and knowledge.

Rugo
 
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I have seen several cars like this

You have to remember back in the day these cars were worth nearly nothing. They were used cars. When they had a wreck the owner or garage would go to the junk yard, pull a front end or partial front end off a wreck and weld it on the car

A buddy has a vert with a whole different front end and VIN on it. Another had a fastback C code car wth a K code inner fender on it

With a six cyl vert I would not even go view it if it had that sort of issue

Peter
 
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Pmustang,

I will certainly proceed with caution. Perhaps the only the door has been changed and that is where the VIN came from on the clear title. I will be very careful to see what the fender VIN's have to say. It does give me a reason to pause though. I very much appreciate the advice.

Rugo
 
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Pmustang said:
I have seen several cars like this

You have to remember back in the day these cars were worth nearly nothing. They were used cars. When they had a wreck the owner or garage would go to the junk yard, pull a front end or partial front end off a wreck and weld it on the car

A buddy has a vert with a whole different front end and VIN on it. Another had a fastback C code car wth a K code inner fender on it

With a six cyl vert I would not even go view it if it had that sort of issue

Peter
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Here in the states that car would require a state issued VIN. Get caught driving a car that the legal VIN doesn't match the title and you'll be lucky if they let you walk home.
 
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That is the one positive to this issue. The seller has the a free and clear title. They texted me a picture of it. The VIN number that the seller gave me, is the one from the title. Unfortuantely, the VIN seems to suggest that the car is a 67 Fastback, with 289 2 bbl. The physical car is a 67 Convertible, with a 6 cylinder. My hope is that the VIN came from a replaced door. And that all of the other VIN's are the original VIN to the car. Plan to go see it soon. Thank you all again for your help.

Rugo
 
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Rugo said:
That is the one positive to this issue. The seller has the a free and clear title. They texted me a picture of it. The VIN number that the seller gave me, is the one from the title. Unfortuantely, the VIN seems to suggest that the car is a 67 Fastback, with 289 2 bbl. The physical car is a 67 Convertible, with a 6 cylinder. My hope is that the VIN came from a replaced door. And that all of the other VIN's are the original VIN to the car. Plan to go see it soon. Thank you all again for your help.

Rugo
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The seller has a title to a 1967 Mustang Fastback with a 289 2V engine. The whereabouts of that car are unknown except for possibly the left door.
The seller also has a 1967 Mustang Convertible with a 200 1V engine. The title to that car is missing.
He is hoping that some unsuspecting and unknowledgeable individual will be so enamored with his Classic Mustang Convertible that the buyer will fail to verify the VIN and will trade him lots of cash for his illegal car. Perhaps the seller was that unsuspecting, unknowledgeable buyer a while back and has become aware of his error and is trying to unload it on someone like himself.
 
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Not laughing about it being a straight 6. Convertible buyers often had top priority that the top goes down. Also 6 cyl verts are
often in unmolested or beat up condition for obvious reasons and the price is low because of less demand.

My guess is the driver door was replaced with a junk yard door, other that the window the vert, fastback and coupe doors are
interchangeable.
 
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Rugo said:
That is the one positive to this issue. The seller has the a free and clear title. They texted me a picture of it. The VIN number that the seller gave me, is the one from the title. Unfortuantely, the VIN seems to suggest that the car is a 67 Fastback, with 289 2 bbl. The physical car is a 67 Convertible, with a 6 cylinder. My hope is that the VIN came from a replaced door. And that all of the other VIN's are the original VIN to the car. Plan to go see it soon. Thank you all again for your help.
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The problem is that the free and clear title you get will not be for the car you are buying...yes, you may get the car, but you won't have the legal title for it. If it gets stolen or totaled and you give the insurance co. or authorities that VIN, you will probably be SOL. Just my .02, but I would walk away UNLESS you can get a REALLY good deal on it and are ok getting a new VIN issued to the car.
 
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