[67hardtop]

First, I really do not know much about 351C's. With that in mind, I'm restoring a '67 coupe and have been looking around locally (newspapers, trading posts) for a roller 302 with AOD. My good friend has a 351C 2 barrel with C6 that he would sell me for $250 because that's what he's got into it. It was running when he pulled it, but I'll probably rebuild it, if it needs it.

First, is everything this same as a 4 barrel 351C (besides the intake)? Heads? etc.

Second, what are your opinions, this engine? or keep looking? I'm still 3/4+ year away from putting an engine into the car.

 

[70calypsomach]

First off not the same as a 4bbl. Different chambers, ports ,etc.
Second. without some serious shock tower mods (I think)mods and expensive headers I do not think you can shoehorn one in a 67.
Third, everything is expensive for a 351C. Parts are somewhat hard to find and not much selection.
IMO Unless you are going for the 500+ hp range or it was the original engine, which it is not, I would go with a 302/351W for the exact opposite reasons I stated above.
This is from someone who just got done building a 351C 4V for his 70 Mach. I love the engine but would not wish it upon anyone.
If you do choose the Cleveland send me a note and I will give you some pointers.

 

[66emberglow]

Find a 5.0 with T5 tranny. That would be cool. More powerful than a 351C and easier to work on.

 

[CantedValve]

You are gonna want some Aussie heads my friend /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

 

[CantedValve]

You CANNOT be serious!! More power than a 351C!?! You really gotta explain that one, cause my head is spinning there...

 

[Guest]

The 351 c 2v would be a good choice.And as for the shock towers there should not be a problem.After all 390S AND 428s came in 67 mustangs and shelbys. just my 2 cents Doug

 

[djjsc]

5L more powerful than a 351C???? NOT!!!!

 

[sidewinder]

Clevelands rule. as for 4v induction you can bolt up a after market intake to your 2v heads, actually makes a good combo. As for the shock towers there the same as the 70's which had clevelands in them any way a matter of fact I've seen 351 4v's in 65-66 with manifolds and know that headers are made for this application. Factory manifolds will work just fine if thats not your bag they make headers. Ok ford made 2v and 4v heads, intakes, and exhaust manifolds which are not interchangeable. As for 5.0's making the same power I find that hard to believe, My 70 351 4v smokes the wifes 5.0 and the 5.0 runs 14.93 at 93mph.

 

[73mockone]

Whew!!! I thought for a moment you were serious!

 

[Guest]

You don't have to cut the shock towers to fit a cleveland into a 67. You'll just need a variety of universals, sockets, extensions, etc. for getting the plugs in and out, and for tightening or loosening the header bolts. Swap headers for any cleveland heads are available from Hooker, and while they are not cheap, they're not high buck parts and are good for the money.

Having said that, you could build a 5.0 to make more than 400hp, thereby beating most clevelands, but you'll have certainly paid for it. Parts for a cleveland aren't free, but since there are so few trick parts available, I may have actually saved money by not being able to buy anything. The regular stuff like pistons, rings, valves, seals, manifolds, etc all cost the same anyway for the most part.

I've often thought that next time I would do a Windsor, but the Cleveland is just cool. Except when it's running. Then it's REAL cool and REAL hot at the same time.

Later,
Dave

 

[nosaj122081]

250 for a good 351c+small case c-6 sounds like a bargin for me, non-bored C's bring down a nice price usually, as do the small case C6's. You could at least sell them and make a profit. On the other hand, put a Edelbrock Performer, 600cfm carb, and a mild cam on a otherwise stock 2V C and it will pull HARD to about 5000 RPM. Or you could go a little further, add Aussie 2V's and a more agressive combo, and put down some serious horsepower numbers. My present combo is close to the first combo, but I'm building it up w/ Aussie heads and some other nice goodies, I expect it to be a real hoss, but its more street/strip oriented, wouldn't make for a good daily driver (not even sure yet if I will be able to run it off 93 octane... Hopefully, if not, looks like I'm buying the CAM2 20 miles down the road). W/ the mild setup, you can drive it everyday on 87 octane, I did for a long time, and it will still smack the bujesus out of just about every other car on the road.

Unless it has 4V heads, I wouldn't buy them... They're good for extremely high RPM's but the 2V's are better suited for street duty, the Aussies being even better. Even w/ the "smaller" valves, the 2V's have bigger valves than lots of aftermarket W heads, the 4V's are big block size territory. Good luck!