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65/66 instrument bezel mystery

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#1 · (Edited)
Hello folks,
I have one question: Do You know any allotment process why some of the ´65 Mustangs are equipped with the ´66 instrument bezel?
I know the differences between the Woodgrain´65/66 , the GT instrument bezels for this models year, but my question is if there exist (or at the history exist) some allotment key process.
I own ´65 Mustang fastabck 2+2, V8-289, 3.sp.manual (not GT for sure...the front disc brakes are missing, the grille-mounted drive lights and the side stripes are missing too...etc.). My Mustang friend own ´65 Mustang Coupe, equipped with I-200 and 3.sp.manual transmission and he have the same type of the Woodgrain instrument bezel like I have at my fastback.
I just want find out some key to undestand this instrument bezel mystery.
Friend´s coupe probably have changed the previous bezel at the history, maybe not. Thank You for any advice or any news of this knot.
Peter
 
#2 ·
Hello folks,
I have one question: Do You know any allotment process why some of the ´65 Mustangs are equipped with the ´66 instrument bezel?
The information posted below came from this page:Identifying the True Factory GT Hope it helps answer your question.

John

The 65 GT Mustang received five dial instrument gauges and flat glove box door with a "mustache" upper edge. The dash panel had to be modified to fit the 5 dial instrument gauges. The true factory GTs will have a rounded indent in the dash panel to accept the gauge cluster just like the standard 1966 dash panel. This is also true of all 65 Mustangs that got the optional deluxe or pony interior except the instrument cluster bezel and glove box door had a woodgrain appliqué. The GT standard interior instrument gauge bezel and glove box door was unique to 65 only (camera case finish with mustache upper edge).

Both years got the woodgrain and mustache upper edge instrument cluster and glove box door with pony interior GT or not.
 
#3 ·
Deluxe interior cars go the woodgrain five-dial cluster, steering wheel, and matching glove box door. If equipped with console it got woodgrain as well...

Switching from Falcon style to five-dial requires mods to the steel dash, but it has been done.
 
#4 · (Edited)
About 5 minutes after the 66 Mustang hit the street, the 66 instrument cluster was getting converted into 65 Mustangs. Ford included the 5-gauge cluster with any 65 GT (black finish), and any 65 with deluxe interior (woodgrain finish), but nothing else. Ford only used the "woodgrain" bezel with the deluxe "pony" interior.

This has always been popular conversion, though. Unless you are a fanatic for correct originality, just leave it as it is.

It's easy to tell if a 65 car was originally equipped with the 5-gauge cluster. The steel dash was actually different. The standard dash was straight along the bottom of the instrument opening, but the 5-gauge got one with a curved notch to give better clearance to the round speedometer. Conversion does not require cutting this, though.

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#5 ·
.... Ford included the 5-gauge cluster with and 65 GT (black finish), and any 65 with deluxe interior (woodgrain finish), but nothing else. Ford only used the "woodgrain" bezel with the deluxe "pony" interior........
Ahhhh, I'm sure you do know not all the 65 De-Lux (Pony interior) cars came with a 5 Dial cluster. Some of them did have the 65 Bar Speedo type bezel with a wood grain applique.
My first 2+2, was a red on red C-code, with De-Lux interior, and had that bezel.
 
#13 ·
I changed mine to white over 20 years ago, and I've never been sorry. Funny thing about that ad, the deluxe interior at the top is not in the white GT at the bottom. On their worst day, even Ford wouldn't put a red stripe on a car with a green interior.
 
#19 · (Edited)
Sorry hadn't been following this thread for a while.
Yes I refered to the bar spedometer type bezel.
The 2+2 in question was purchased in 1983. At that time, there was no inclination or thought to documentation. Four 65 Mustang 2+2's later, Sorry my word is insufficent.
 
#17 ·
I'm going to throw another difference in the loop. I have a factory pony interior 65 car with the 5 gauge woodgrain cluster and the dash does not have the rounded indent in the dash. The bezel itself has a "dent" in the plastic under the speedo so it fits in the dash without the dash being cut. I found this out when trying to replace the Ford bezel with an aftermarket one.

Doug
 
#18 ·
I have read indications both ways: Does the dash need modifying? I have a 66 5 gauge cluster coming that I am putting into a non-GT non-anything 65 coupe with bar speedo originally. Bought off ebay, so don't have in hand to see.
 
#20 ·
I'd say someone added woodgrain appliques to a 65 cluster in that case.As the five dial cluster was part of a package in 65.Bottom line a five dial cluster could only be had two ways. In a G.T. Or a pony interior. I know many were added over the years,I'm guilty of a few myself.As far as One offs. "The Deuces Coupe" Aka the early coupe built for Henry Ford the second was definately a one off,That baby is ultra rare and one of one,I hope to see it one day in person.Not only does it have woodgrain in the interior,it's actually real wood,The interior was real leather as was the vinyl,err I mean leather top. A wild car to say the least.
 
#21 · (Edited)
Well I can say that the car was a factory De-Lux interior, w/console & glove box door woodgrained, and the 65 wiring harness was for the idiot light dash not a 5 Dial.
The car was factory red on red. My intention was to change the color as I don't particularly care for red. After I saw the the plate decoded to red on red I sold the car & bought another. That the dash bezel was not 5 Dial had no significence to me at all.
IIRC the car was Metuchen built and Dallas DSO, on that I could be wrong.
 
#22 ·
I have 65 Fast Back 2+2, originally a 6 banger with 3 speed, now a 289 C4. I want to upgrade to the 5 gauge cluster plus Rally Pack. Read that if you want to convert a 65 you need to get a 66 cluster and replace much of the harness due to the 65 Amp Guage not being available and different from the 66. Is this accurate, any advice?
 
#23 ·
I'm really late getting into this but if I understand right a GT gauge panel won't fit in a standard insert. What else needs to be done to convert the standard gauge panel to the 5 gauge cluster? My car has all the trimmings of a 65 GT fastback but it's an "A" code car with a standard instrument cluster. If It's a big headache I have a 5 gauge cluster for sale.
 
#24 ·
Les - it's not hard to get it to fit inside. I converted my '65 from the standard instrument-light panel to a 5 gauge panel. Didn't notch the opening....just insert the bottom of the cluster/bezel assembly into the opening first, and make sure the bottom of the speedo fits inside, let it drop down until it's sitting on the bottom of the opening, and then push the top in. Fits perfectly.
 
#25 ·
You DON'T have to cut the dash to install the 5-dial cluster. Sometimes you need to simply bend the lip down a bit but that's all. Although I've never had reason to TRY it, logic would dictate that you could use a '65 underdash harness by clipping the ammeter wiring to attach to either end of a current shunt, and running the '66 gauge from the small terminals.


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