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Just FYI...."rust reformer" is a gimmick. There is no such thing. Say that something you spray on could magically change the chemical composition of rust(AKA Iron Oxide) then what would it do to iron without the oxygen? Even if it did magically transform Iron oxide back into iron, what do you gain from that as opposed to just taking sandpaper and sanding away the surface rust and painting it?

From Rustoleum's website:
"Stop rust in its tracks with Rust-Oleum® Stops Rust® Rust Reformer. A layer of this flat-black coating bonds with rusty metal and instantly transforms it into a non-rusting surface. "

Hmm, sounds an awful lot like paint to me. Paint also sticks to rust and transforms rusty metal to a non-rusting surface by simply cutting off the supply of oxygen to the metal. You could do the same thing with spray paint from the dollar store.

Sorry, rant about gimmick paint called "rust reformer/converter" with an inflated price now over.
 
Just FYI...."rust reformer" is a gimmick. There is no such thing. Say that something you spray on could magically change the chemical composition of rust(AKA Iron Oxide) then what would it do to iron without the oxygen? Even if it did magically transform Iron oxide back into iron, what do you gain from that as opposed to just taking sandpaper and sanding away the surface rust and painting it?

From Rustoleum's website:
"Stop rust in its tracks with Rust-Oleum® Stops Rust® Rust Reformer. A layer of this flat-black coating bonds with rusty metal and instantly transforms it into a non-rusting surface. "

Hmm, sounds an awful lot like paint to me. Paint also sticks to rust and transforms rusty metal to a non-rusting surface by simply cutting off the supply of oxygen to the metal. You could do the same thing with spray paint from the dollar store.

Sorry, rant about gimmick paint called "rust reformer/converter" with an inflated price now over.
Are you saying phosphoric acid has no effect on iron oxide?
 
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What if I replace everything around the vin
There you go. It's a matter of semantics and opinions. It does seem though that some people think there is some magic in replacing parts individually rather than all at once. Or even who does it. If a home builder does it, it bad. If some well known name does it in his shop it's all good.
 
Are you saying phosphoric acid has no effect on iron oxide?
Ok, let me rephrase that then: I'm saying what difference does it make? Phosphoric acid and tannic acid convert rust to iron tannate(or iron phosphate) which is chemically stable sure...but it doesn't change the fact that the base metal is still compromised. If I spray rust converter on a half rotted panel...I still have a half rotted panel. It doesn't change anything. It doesn't make the (now) iron phosphate(or iron tannate, whatever) any less prone to separating from the remaining iron and exposing that iron to the air...and that iron will still rust when exposed to oxygen and water. You get the exact same effect by spraying spray paint on a rusted surface. It isolates the rust from oxygen and water with a physical barrier of paint. Either way its a garbage solution since either way rust particles sitting on a surface are more likely to flake off(regardless of coating) than if you sand the rust particles away, then clean, prime and paint the base metal.
 
The difference between an acid and a paint is the paint sits on top of the iron oxide, the acid alters it chemically... there's a difference. Yes spraying PA on a rotted piece of metal leaves you a rotted piece of metal, but so does sanding all the rust off that rotted piece.
 
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Because I think the olny good part is the roof and that even has a small rust hole in it so I don’t really expect to get much out of this rotted out shell but at least i got a whole bunch of parts i can put on a rust free shell
 
My opinion? Strip all the "salable" stuff from the car you have.... window tracks, vent window frames, glass, misc.hardware...fasteners, etc., that aren't junk... Crush the rest. If you are set on wanting a '65-66 Mustang get the one in the best body condition you can afford and sell off the stuff you don't need on eBay, FB Marketplace, etc.
 
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My opinion? Strip all the "salable" stuff from the car you have.... window tracks, vent window frames, glass, misc.hardware...fasteners, etc., that aren't junk... Crush the rest. If you are set on wanting a '65-66 Mustang get the one in the best body condition you can afford and sell off the stuff you don't need on eBay, FB Marketplace, etc.
That is my current plan for this car but instead of crushing it im going to try to sell it first so i can get a little bit more money
 
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