Vintage Mustang Forums banner

front valance chin spoiler???

19K views 30 replies 15 participants last post by  kiwimustang67  
#1 ·
guys, i ordered a chin spoiler on ebay that i am not too sure about. i think that they used thier molding too much and it warped from the heat of the fiberglass. does anyone have pics and measurements of these spoilers? wanting to know if they suppose to have a slight bow to them or if they should be completely straight. this is the part i am talking about: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...ll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=230227269837&category0=&fvi=1&item=230227269837

p.s. - i wouldnt reccomend buying this product, it is extremely thin and has terrible mounting points. going to be using this part to make my own molding and remake it my way. but need to see if it needs to be straight or slightly bowed. thanks!
 
#2 ·
I cant offer you any information about the product you're inquiring about, but I can say that I've purchased a chin spoiler and a fiberglass front bumper from this seller for my 65 and I am very pleased with the quality they have and their service.
They are also a seller that is willing to work with their customers. You dont always find that.

If I were you I would contact them with the issue you have and retract any negative coment you may have left.
 
#3 ·
i have not left any negative comments on thier profile, just mentioned that the fiberglass was very thin. they are nice people and shipped quickly, but they still sent me a thin fiberglass part that came to me cracked b/c it was so thin and not braced at all in the packaging, and it looks warped. i am just trying to find out if the bows in it are meant to be there or not. can you send me some pics of the chin on your red 65? i need pics from both sides and top and bottom, i would really appreciate it.
 
#4 ·
Yes, I can see about getting those pics for you over the weekend.
I dont recall having any kind of warpage or bow with mine. It does possibly sound like a mold issue and yes they do ship their product with little to no packing, which seems to be the norm with fiberglass vendors.
I am pleased with both of the pieces I received from them.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2503/mymustang076zf4.jpg
 
#5 ·
Man, I cringe every time I see anything hanging that low on the front of a car made of 'glass - too many bad experiences in the '70s! One tap of a curb, parking lot block, or steep driveway, and it's history. Even as conscious and careful as I was, I still managed to at least crack every one I owned (these were on daily drivers, of course).
I seem to recall one of the Mustang vendors handling these in the same black plastic material used on the '69-'73 cars; have you considered something like that?
 
#6 ·
thanks rocky for the pic, keep them coming, the more the better. when casting the new chin i will be reinforcing it with metal rods and use a couple of layers of really thick fiberglass. i will be painting it flat black so it will be easy to touch up incase of a chip or crack.
 
#7 ·
I have seen people use conveyor belt rubber and cutting it to shape, then painting. It's pretty stiff but gives when need be, I guess it wouldn't have a gloss paint look like fiberglass though. I'll be looking at this when I get to that point.
Jon
 
#9 ·
1968mustang6 said:
when casting the new chin i will be reinforcing it with metal rods and use a couple of layers of really thick fiberglass. i will be painting it flat black so it will be easy to touch up incase of a chip or crack.
I would suggest not getting tooo carried away...remember as mentioned above. If you ever happen to catch something..better to have "just" the spoiler tear off rather than half your nose.

When I did mine..(differnt than your using)I actually split mine and tipped it up for a little more clearance...

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/files/attachments/med_1206712741-fc31e164.jpg
 
#10 ·
did you make the chin yourself or is that a order item? if so from where? i like it.
 
#11 ·
it originally came from maier racing...a 68 shelby spoiler....but that was just a starting point..it's gone through some radical change...split it and tipped it up and added the brake duct cooling vents.
 
#12 ·
Does anyone make a front spoiler for a 67/68 that is not fiberglass? I watched an episode of Overhaulin' where Chip Foose did some trimming to a 69/70 Mustang chin spoiler. It looked really cool and you could almost eliminate the problem of cracking or chips from curbs/road debris.
 
#13 ·
I could be wrong but I believe the 69-70's are a abs plastic type material (69-70 owners could chime in to confirm)and being black plastic it would eliminate chipping...but hit a curb hard enough and I quite sure you could break one of those also!

If you get down and look at the curve of your lower valance....I'm not sure what else you could use?
 
#14 ·
I think you are right about the ABS plastic on the 69/70 spoilers. That is what I liked about it. Maybe a little more forgiving than fiberglass. I don't know how much more since my lower valence is fiberglass. It would likely break and not my spoiler. HMMMMM. Maybe I don't really want a spoiler now that I think about it.
 
#15 ·
68EFIvert said:
HMMMMM. Maybe I don't really want a spoiler now that I think about it.
I don't think it's really a big issue...just a matter of using your head. Stay off curbs...watch your angles in and out of parking lots etc.
And keep your insurance paid up... :p
 
#16 ·
The 69' is textured plastic and it is made that way specifically for this reason. At first you think wow, what a cheap POS because it is so flexible but I have tapped a few parking space curbs with it in my time and not damagaed it in the least, just scuffed the bottom edge. When it is down below your line of site and in the shadows it does not look anywhere near as cheap as it does in your hand under full light.

Fiberglass ones scare the crap out of me for a driver, I would only consider one if it had to be painted body color and was mostly a show car.
 
#17 ·
NPD sell the OEM plastic type for 67-68's. Posted a question a while back if anyone had used one, considering it for my S GT coupe... no replies.

001A06/74 FRONT SPOILER
Our reproduction front spoilers are built to match the originals in every way. Thermoformed to original contours using OEM materials: crosslinked high-density plastic.

Unlike fiberglass, this material tends to flex and rebound after hitting curbstones and other highway hazards.

Mounting hardware is included in each kit. 65-68 spoilers are non-original.
 
#18 ·
Thanks for the info on npd dalorzo f. now when I tear up my fiberglass one I know where to get plastic ones from. I should of did that in the first place. but since I have already spent $ on the fiberglass piece I might as well use it.
 
#19 ·
You will hate the chin spoiler when you run into a curb when you're parking, or a good sized speed bump, or a deep driveway. I had one on a 65 coupe and loved the looks, but hated the cracked fiberglass.
 
#20 ·
I've been working on this valence off and on... I got the idea from the fastback that Troy Trepanier did for eBay a few years ago. This one only sticks out 2 inches. the engine is out of the car right now, but I don't think it will be too low at all, nor does it extend out to far... I don't think curb rash will be an issue.

The spoiler portion is made of 16 gauge steel and only took a few hours to fit up.

Link to bigger pic
http://home.comcast.net/~stangg/vmf/fr_valance_3.jpg

Link to bigger pic
http://home.comcast.net/~stangg/vmf/fr_valance_4.jpg
 
#28 ·
I've been working on this valence off and on... I got the idea from the fastback that Troy Trepanier did for eBay a few years ago. This one only sticks out 2 inches. the engine is out of the car right now, but I don't think it will be too low at all, nor does it extend out to far... I don't think curb rash will be an issue.

The spoiler portion is made of 16 gauge steel and only took a few hours to fit up.

Link to bigger pic
http://home.comcast.net/~stangg/vmf/fr_valance_3.jpg

Link to bigger pic
http://home.comcast.net/~stangg/vmf/fr_valance_4.jpg
Old thread, but worth a shot Stangg you around still? What are the dimensions for the chin spoiler? I want a metal chin spoiler, been thinking bout making my own what you did looks great. Anyone else got a custom made chin spoiler out there they could share?
 
#21 ·
Stangg, how difficult was it to put the oil cooler opening in the valence? Do you wish you had gone bigger/smaller, what size is the opening and any tips? Will the hood latch support need to be modded? I see you haven't reinstalled yours yet.
I plan to do this to an aftermarket valence as a test for putting an trans cooler and maybe big driving lites there for my '67 coupe.
Thanks, Jon
 
#22 ·
Stangg, how difficult was it to put the oil cooler opening in the valence? Do you wish you had gone bigger/smaller, what size is the opening and any tips? Will the hood latch support need to be modded? I see you haven't reinstalled yours yet.
The opening is basically the size of the flat area where the license plate goes. I cut out the flat section then drew the curved section back a little more. Next, took a piece of poster board to get the basic shape, then transfered it to a piece of flat stock and fitted it to the opening. That took a few hours and still needs a little more finishing work... After seeing Rockymtnmare's valance, I'm thinking about making my opening a little wider.

I made the radiator support... the two allen bolts serve as the anchors for the hood latch. It is very sturdy.
 
#23 ·
JonK said:
Will the hood latch support need to be modded?
Here's how I did mine. You can do this mod without any drilling or cutting so it can be easily reversed.

Unfortunately, this is the best pic I have, I'll snap a better pic tonite and post it up. Look closely behind my grille and in front of the radiator, and you can see 2 black bars that extend diagonally from the hood latch to the bottom of the radiator....
http://www.ssstangs.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10043/IMG_0673.JPG

I used 1/2" steel rod. I heated each of the ends and flattened them with a hammer (just the ends). Then I drilled a hole at the ends of the rods. Heated them again to put bends in them so the holes would be flat with the hood latch, and flat to the lower radiator bolts. I used the stock hood latch bolts to bolt them to the latch. And I used the stock radiator lower bolts to bolt them to the core support.
 
#24 ·
Here's a better pic of the Hood latch support on the driver's side. Passenger side has one too.

http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/files/attachments/1208225860-Picture_1912.jpg
 
#25 ·
Does anyone sell a plastic (not fiberglass) spoiler for a 65/66?

I pulled a black plastic spoiler off a car at the pick a part and installed it on my 65. The fit is not perfect but reasonable. I'm convinced this makes a noticeable improvement to high speed stability. I'm reluctant to take it off even though the fit is not perfect.

Anyone else feel the difference?
 
#26 ·
jeffstar said:
Does anyone sell a plastic (not fiberglass) spoiler for a 65/66?

I was thumbing through the Mustangs Unlimited parts catalog I got in the mail this week and they sell both fiberglass & ABs plastic chin spoilers for several years.
Link Mustang Plastic Spoiler