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VMFers willing to do a brother a solid, I'm looking for somebody to take a look at a

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Hi guys I'm looking at a beautiful 69 Convertible in Rockwall, Texas, any of you guys willing to do a favor for a fellow mustang enthusiast? I need somebody to take a look at the car for me, I am unable to make the trip out there due to work. I'll PM you the address if your interested!
Thanks in advance!
 
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Rockwall is just to the East of the center point between Dallas and Plano
 
#6 · (Edited)
Hi guys I'm looking at a beautiful 69 Convertible in Rockwall, Texas, any of you guys willing to do a favor for a fellow mustang enthusiast? I need somebody to take a look at the car for me, I am unable to make the trip out there due to work. I'll PM you the address if your interested!
Thanks in advance!
Originally Posted by geicoman58 View Post
How about a state, or better yet, a city its close by so you can get a volunteer or 2 interested........
Rockwall is just to the East of the center point between Dallas and Plano
OK so this whole thread is HILARIOUS!!!:clap::clap::clap:
I tried to quote all of it!

Great Username BTW, Tacklebarry!
 

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The nickname was given to me because I was the only person to consistently score 100% in our department. Unfortunately, I was injured in the line of duty and missed retirement by 2 years so I don’t get any. Is there anything you can do for the OP?
 
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I'd pay a reputable surveyor or inspector to go out and look at the car, drive it and so on, that way you know someone who is knowledgable about cars has looked it over at the very least and they can then give you their opinion on the matter afterward. I personally would be hard pressed to go and look at something for free, even if you were to pay me for my gas, as it would still be taking time out of my day as I believe my time is quite valuable, and isn't worthless. I think this is especially true if someone doesn't live anywhere near the area where the vehicle is located and would take several hours or more to do a round trip. Also, and I could be wrong about this, but most people on here are likely not experts and might not want to give their advice/opinion or stake their reputation on whether or not YOU should buy a car. I'm sure most on here have pretty good insight but that being said, they would feel horrible if they recommended a car for you to buy to have you then purchase it and come to find out it's stolen, has been wrecked, damaged, is unsafe to drive, wasn't worth the purchase price and so on. Or at least I would feel horrible and responsible to that person if that were the case with me inspecting a vehicle for another member. I can't imagine a surveyor would be more than a couple hundred dollars... if you're serious about putting an offer down on the car, that is something you might want to look into.
 
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Unfortunately I don't think maybe people are going to go look at the car for free, even if you pay them for their gas
Happens here from time to time when people ask. It's not unheard of. Once someone has been around for a while and doesn't completely alienate themselves many here are more than happy to do just that. I would. People even go fetch parts for others. There are plenty of stories out there about people hiring an inspector and getting a raw deal. He'll have a better chance of getting someone with more Mustang specific knowledge here than phoning some random vehicle inspector. If there is a pro vintage Mustang guy in the area that's one thing but those are far and few between but a local club may have someone.

Were it me and I was that close I'd fuel up the rig and go see it. Take some cash, a buddy and maybe Mr Glock in case the deal goes sideways. Maybe take a trailer and park it around the block or reserve a one way from U-Haul just in case. Put some magnets in the usual places, see if he'll let you cowl test if not feel up inside (of the air vent, not the seller...) drive it, listen to it. If he likes it buy it.
 
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I went and looked at one for a fellow Mustanger who lives half way around the world. Then I drove one 1300 miles to to keep at my house for him for about 8 months. And we had never even met each other until he came here to drive it for the first time. And now we are best of friends. I wouldn't trade for anything, not even money. Try it sometime, it might be a rewarding experience!
 
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That's cool that you did what you did for another member. If a member needed someone to look at a local, to me, car with them or even needed someone to go look at it by themselves because they were unable to do so, if I had the time off work to go look at it, I would probably do just that. That being said... I value my time off and enjoy spending it with my family and friends, so if the car they wanted to look at was hours or hundreds of miles away, I probably wouldn't be interested in driving there alone. Maybe if the potential "buyer" was driving there with me but probably not by myself. Also, I don't live anywhere near Rockwell, TX.
 
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Steven,

Your inquiry does put me off in the least. If I were in that area I would have no issues taken a peek at it a letting yo7 know what
I found.
That said, I would expect my findings to just be additional information, not the sole deciding factors; firming up what you had already chatted about with the seller via telephone and email.

Seems to me one of the better parts of this hobbies is people willing to roll up sleeves and lend a hand.

My .02 for what it is worth.
 
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Okay, so here’s the car!

I went to go look at it Saturday. It was 30-40° outside, rainy and cold. So the following are the best photos i could take before the cold killed my iphone battery and rendered the movements of my hands useless.

I am not entirely sure what quality of car you’re looking for, but i would render this one “driver quality”.

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At face value, the car looked very nice. I found no problems with the interior, and the car is very solid. All torqueboxes are good, all frame rails and floors looked solid and straight.

The car is an H-code car, with a 351W, auto trans, and a factory 9-inch rear. It runs and drives, shifts very nice, and has manual brakes. The steering wheel has been replaced to a smaller diameter wheel, but there was no excessive play in the power steering, and it actually drove very nice. The only driving issue i found was that the front tires are too big, and if you turn too sharply, you will hear the tires rub on the fender trim.

This car has been garaged most of its life, bought by the current owner about 10 years ago from the original owner. Because of this, there is no fade in either the paint or the glass, which were both, at face value, in decent shape.

There were no cracks in the shock towers, and the cowl is solid- no rust. The trunk dropoffs also were solid, no rust through that i could see. There is some surface rust starting in the trunk area, which is not a huge problem at all. The mounting location of the left shock tower brace was bent slightly downward, however i would chalk it up to body flex/wear after 50 years. This car looked very original. An export brace would take care of this issue.

I could not find a buck tag anywhere, but the VIN was there. Unfortunately, the plate was sitting low and i couldn’t make out the entire thing. But from the first digits, i could see it was a 69 H-code.

It’s a power steering, A/C equipped convertible. The car was running for about 45 mins and there was no fluid leaking on the ground anywhere. The oil looked good, the trans fluid looked good, and the coolant was very clean. The owner doesn’t drive it much, but he runs his cars every once in awhile to keep them in good condition. He said he *maybe put ~2000 miles on it during his ownership.

It was a great looking car, and would be the perfect candidate if you’re looking to have a great 69 mustang needing a little bit of work. This condition of car is what would’ve been perfect for me- a mostly original, relatively untouched, solid 69 mustang that, with a little bit of work, would be the perfect weekend driver.

Here are the “issues” i found with the car:
-Gauge cluster lights were inop
-backup lights were inop
-the middle weatherstripping/hinge/seal of the rear convertible window was missing, allowing water in if sitting outside.
-front wheel rub on the fender trim
-the left quarter window alignment was off
-the right door alignment was off
-there were issues getting it started. I later figured out that the fuel line going from the fender to the pump was rotted out. Easy fix.
-A/C blows, but not cold
-unsure if radio works
-cracking bondo job found on rear left quarter panel behind wheel well
-small amount of rust bubble found on rear left quarter panel
-cracking paint found in many places on the car
-small cosmetic issues, such as front right trim (pictured)
-cut out found in the front left shock tower
-convertible top works, but mechanism is a little rough/slow. Owner said there might be “air in the system” (i don’t know much about convertibles)
-couple of chips in the paint
-rear right quarter panel has been replaced (this isn’t really a big issue, just an observation)

My biggest concern of this car (if i was going to judge this car pretty hard) is the paint cracking. I found it on the top of the rear quarters, the tail panel, the front right fender, and some on the doors. Maybe the car was repainted in the past? I was informed that the motor was rebuilt (a long time ago, pre-2000’s most likely)

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I will include more photos in my next post! I spent 2 hours looking at this car. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask.
 
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VIN tag, was kind of hard to make out.
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Original driveshaft still has the paint bands
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9-inch rear still has the axle tag
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Front valance paint chipping
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Paint chipping, front right fender
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Bondo cracking, behind left rear wheel well. The only place that my magnet picked up bondo.
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Rust bubbling, top of rear left quarter panel
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Paint damage, rear left quarter
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Pictured: behind the right shock tower. Brake line looked a little wet.
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Trim “damage”, from front tire rub.
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Small crack in fan shroud
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View: inside trunk, looking to the right. Easy to tell that the rear right quarter was replaced
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Coolant looks good
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Cut out in front left shock tower.
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Temp gauge was inop, however there was an aftermarket one installed to mitigate this.
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Trunk floor condition- this is the worst of it, which isn’t bad at all. Just dirty, with a few specks of rust
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Front right trim, cosmetic issue
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Wheels look pretty good
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Front right fender mounting location
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Convertible top condition
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Trunk
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The trunk still has original spare tire, jack, tire iron, etc. pretty cool! There’s some spare trim pieces, door hinges, and a few other things back there.
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Front view
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I forgot to mention that the battery tray is rusted out. Needs replacement
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Trunk dropoff
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Tag on front of engine bay
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Missing rear window seal
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Front steering/suspension
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Torqueboxes
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Car has a lot of hidden issues that aren't going to get any better with time. Looks to have been resprayed at least twice. Paint might be lacquer, which would explain the cracking. It has a complete strip to bare metal and respray in it's future.

Looking at the underside, you can assume the car was a pleasure car for the owner and one before that. You could assume that pretty much everything is worn out as it only received the maintenance or repairs it needed, not any sort of real restoration work.
 
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Just wanted to say that Kwaz, you're awesome - great to see VMFers looking out for one another and even braving terrible weather to do so :)

It does look like a pretty reasonable cruiser/driver car if the price is right. The paint is the worst of it - looks like someone just failed to prep correctly so paint is sheeting off (poor adhesion) or swelling/cracking (problems with outgassing solvent). If that doesn't bother you, then it could be a great choice for a rolling restoration or just a car that gets updated/maintained as needed. It's an especially good sign that it drove/steered well and didn't leak, considering the poor reputation for leaks that the stock power steering system seems to have.
 
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#30 ·
Incredible inspection!!

I'd run from that car as fast as you can

69/70 convertibles are a tough sell. I'd find a minter and grab a deal on it
 
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