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Wide Band A/F meter

3.8K views 24 replies 11 participants last post by  09Frank65  
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I bought an Innovate LM-2 A/F meter setup and after numerous attempts to get the original working and then a new one sent that just freezes on turn-on have decided that it is going back. To say I am disappointed in the quality is an understatement.

So my question is this - has anyone used a different meter and had good experiences with it?

FAST?
Zeitronix?

Something else?

Data logging capability with A/F ratio at RPM would be nice but if I have to sit there and look at a gauge in order to get something that works, I'm willing to do that.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
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#4 ·
you'd be surprised how valuable it is to know the a/f ratio under the many different driving conditions that one experiences. My limited experience prompts me to advise installing the AEM wideband meter somewhere under the dash, if only for a month or so. Then decide if you want to remove it.

Z.
 
#7 ·
Candoo - from what I have seen, the LM-1 was much less touchy/finicky/pick an adjective. With the LM-2, there seems to be two groups of people, those who hate it and those who love it, not much in between. The problems I have been having with it pretty much covers the range of those who hate it!

zray - I kind of like this:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/avm-30-4900/overview/
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It can monitor A/F and vacuum as well and has a built-in data logger with USB cord. It's overkill, but does everything I want.

Now to find a place to install it...
 
#10 ·
Not on my Mustang... but on my '99 Lightning, I run a Glowshift wideband that has digital read out, and also has an LED. Honestly, I find it much easier to notice the number rather than notice the LED blinker.

A lot of people in the Lightning crowds frown on Glowshift because they are cheaper, but mine has been very reliable and I haven't had any issues with it, or the vac/boost gauge that I've been running for a bit over a year.
 
#12 ·
I have an LM-2.. it's always worked... IMO the gauges are nearly worthless except for being pretty.

In order to be meaningful you need something that can log a/f vs rpm.. the LM-2 can do that.

-Shannon
 
#15 ·
My thoughts as well except that after 4 weeks, two returns, too many tech support calls to count the damn thing won't get past the logo screen and just locks up. Their tech support appears to be clueless.

The AEM I listed above has data logging vs RPM capability. Still haven't decided on anything except that the LM-2 is going back.
 
#14 ·
Im using the dynojet wideband commander for my setup. Its has a full sweep gauge and is nearly identical to my autometer gauges in the dash. Comes with software for data logging and has programmable led.
 
#16 ·
I ran the AEM 30-4100 on my 65. I wrote some datalogging software that logs against time. I was working on a solution to take the tach signal in the sound card on a laptop but never got motivated enough to finish it. It's a nice enough package - graphs the data from the meter using RS-232 to USB convertor.

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I'm in the same boat as you when it comes to the LM-2. I really wanted to pick one up, but after reading so many bad reviews I had to stay away. With my luck I would of ended up with the lemon. Sucks since their LM-1 was such a hit. I ended up with the AEM Analog Wideband Uago O2 sensor and I'm pretty happy. I would of loved a self sustained unit that could be used on multiple cars, but couldn't find one. I went with a cup mounted on the steering column and installed the gauge with a quick disconnect connector. I was planning on being able to use the gauge on other cars, but after final install I doubt that. Heres my set-up
 

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#23 ·
I have had it installed about 2 yrs now. When I had the car tuned for my setup it was dead on with the tuners. I know its a little pricey ,but everyone I talked with highly recommended it. Not saying there isn't a better setup, but its really all I need. There are usually some for sale on SVTPerformance.com or www.modularfords.com that are priced reasonable.