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ACC Carpet - this doesnt look right

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#1 · (Edited)
I bought ACC MASS Back carpet for my 69 coupe.. Laid it in place today to get an idea of how it will fit and I noticed a few things that don't look right to me and I am thinking about sending it back unless this turns out to be normal.

I am pretty sure the carpet I pulled out was original, but I'm not to sure anymore.

First thing I noticed, the front piece of the ACC carpet DOES NOT have the piping/sewn seam where it meets the back half. The carpet I pulled out, had this. (see the first picture of the ACC carpet lined up and on top of my original)

The Front half of the ACC carpet is also about 2-3 inches shorter. With the carpet pressed into place at the toe boards, the rear seam on the ACC carpet stops at the bottom of the seat riser.

the rear half of the ACC, has the sewn in piping on the seam. With it in place in the rear foot wells, the sewn piping barely meets up and covers the seam from the front. The rear half is also a few inches longer and slightly overhangs the front edge of the seat riser. (See second Picture )


My old carpet, had the piping on the front half, and it overlapped the rear half a good 2-3 inches on top of the seat riser.

Also, comparing it to CJPONYPARTS Carpet install video on youtube, my carpet does not have any sewn edges on it like theirs did.
Does anyone know if this is normal or should I return these?
And yes.. I will be fixing the floor pan soon :)
 

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#3 ·
I have been doing upholstery work for over 20 years and have installed my share of Mustang carpet. Most of it has been ACC. Sometimes it's been fine, but other times I've had problems with the fit. I've heard it said that ACC has bought out stock from other vendors that were going out of business and sold it as ACC carpet. Don't know if there's any truth to that, but it could explain why there's inconsistencies with the carpet sometimes. I was also told that ACC carpet has a starter hole cut for the shifter and if the hole isn't there, it's not ACC. Again, this is just what I've been told. Don't know if it's true or not.

Based on the issues you described, I would send it back. Talk to the vendor you got it from and tell them about the problems you've encountered. If they're reputable, they should work with you and either get you a better carpet set or give you a refund. Good luck.
 
#6 ·
WAIT!!!

I take a risk going against the expertise of 22GT, but I'm 99.9% certain the OP is being misdirected...

First off, 69-70 carpeting is totally different than 68-earlier.. The term "serge" is typically associated with a sewn-up edge, as is evident on earlier Mustangs. This is not evident on any of the 1969-up carpets in my collection.

Your 1969 carpet should have a strip of vinyl wrapped around the leading edge of the REAR portion of the carpet, and sewn in place, binding that leading edge.

The rear edge of the front section should be raw-cut, nothing trimming/finishing it out. In fact the factory-original carpets can be pretty sloppily done, although it's all hidden underneath the rear section.

I ran back and looked at my 1969 Boss 429 (original interior and carpet) and 1970 Mach 1 (4,900 original miles, original everything, purchased from Bob Perkins years ago).

The carpets in both cars match the description of how your new ACC carpet fits. The front section butts-up against the seat riser (more or less, as carpet installation at the factory wasn't an exact science, and the trim-line wanders). The rear section is bound on the front edge, and overlaps the rear edge of the front just-barely, ranging from 1/2" - 1" of overlap, tops.

I also ducked into a couple original-carpet '67's I've got to remind myself of how they're installed. Totally different than the 69-70's, the front section overlaps the rear, and it's a serge-type binding, no vinyl.

From your pictures and description, I'd be of the mind that your old carpet is old-aftermarket and not original... And that your new ACC carpet is damn close to the originals I'm looking at here..

Rick
NPD
 
#7 ·
WAIT!!!

I take a risk going against the expertise of 22GT, but I'm 99.9% certain the OP is being misdirected...

First off, 69-70 carpeting is totally different than 68-earlier.. The term "serge" is typically associated with a sewn-up edge, as is evident on earlier Mustangs. This is not evident on any of the 1969-up carpets in my collection.

Your 1969 carpet should have a strip of vinyl wrapped around the leading edge of the REAR portion of the carpet, and sewn in place, binding that leading edge.

The rear edge of the front section should be raw-cut, nothing trimming/finishing it out. In fact the factory-original carpets can be pretty sloppily done, although it's all hidden underneath the rear section.

I ran back and looked at my 1969 Boss 429 (original interior and carpet) and 1970 Mach 1 (4,900 original miles, original everything, purchased from Bob Perkins years ago).

The carpets in both cars match the description of how your new ACC carpet fits. The front section butts-up against the seat riser (more or less, as carpet installation at the factory wasn't an exact science, and the trim-line wanders). The rear section is bound on the front edge, and overlaps the rear edge of the front just-barely, ranging from 1/2" - 1" of overlap, tops.

I also ducked into a couple original-carpet '67's I've got to remind myself of how they're installed. Totally different than the 69-70's, the front section overlaps the rear, and it's a serge-type binding, no vinyl.

From your pictures and description, I'd be of the mind that your old carpet is old-aftermarket and not original... And that your new ACC carpet is damn close to the originals I'm looking at here..

Rick
NPD
+1

This is exactly how my ACC carpet lays. The only "finished" edge is the front of the rear section.
 
#11 ·
I simply used your comment about no-holes to further-explain-it for those who wonder "why"??

I've seen and heard a lot of complaints over the years regarding the ACC carpets not having all the holes pre-punched for faster installation. I thought this was a good opportunity to explain why that would be a counterproductive idea...
 
#12 · (Edited)
Im well aware of having to make my holes and making it fit. But I can't make the front piece longer so that it gets properly covered by the rear half. as it is now, there is a gap between where the pieces meet.

CJPONYPARTS has not responded to my email yet asking for an exchange.
 
#13 ·
Yes, The Front of the Rear carpet goes over the rear of the Front Carpet. The Front of the rear carpet has a "Finished" edge and Rear of the Front carpet is unfinished and slides under. That is the correct way.

:eek:)

Tony K.
 
#14 ·
If no matter what you do to adjust the fit into the pans, you wind up with a gap, then you should call your vendor or ACC and discuss an exchange. They should overlap.

Just confirm to the best of your ability/knowledge that your floors and platforms and toe-boards are all-original. Otherwise, you might have them chasing a ghost in trying to get you proper fitting carpet.