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Another 4bbl 4100 puzzlement

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#1 ·
Refurbished carb and all's well for about 2-3 hundred miles. Then from out of the blue developed a stumble while accelerating out of first. In the garage the motor starts, idles and revs just fine. Only when getting on the road accelerating in first and under a load does it stumble. So severe that the motor stops/hesitates. Let up on the gas and it resumes idling, have done a bit of remove and replace but can't find the problem? Sound familiar to anyone? Thanks for the help. Brian
 
#4 ·
"Plugged orifices" include the tube leading from the pump to the center well under the booster, the holes in the hollow bolt securing the booster or the discharge nozzles in the booster itself. The check valve could be preventing fuel from entering the pump chamber or allowing it to leak back into the float bowl.
 
#6 ·
Thanks for the explanation. The accelerator pump diaphragm area seems OK. Did an extensive cleanup of all tubes, chambers and vacuum passages but it's possible I missed something. Could the problem be on the ignition side? Brian
 
#8 · (Edited by Moderator)
Thank you. Back to my original set of running conditions and stumble/hesitation. Probably not the accelerator pump or assembly. Nor any of woodchucks other suggestions. From the drivers seat it feels akin to a flooded carb. causing the almost stall. Again, only happens under a load. Preforms fine in the garage. Accelerate and stumble. Get off the gas pedal the motor recovers and resumes idling get on the gas and the car speeds up. The initial hard gas pedal causes the problem. Thoughts? Thanks, Brian
 
#9 ·
Had the same symptoms as you and it turned out to be my electronic ignition unit (a Pertronix II installed inside the distributor). Idled fine, could rev it up with no misfiring or anything, but as soon as it was under load it was sluggish and stumbled. I messed with my carburetor FOREVER until I realized it wasn't a fuel or timing issue.

Could be a plethora of things, but in my case, the Pertronix unit wasn't getting a full 12 volts because of the resistance properties built into the pink resistor wire going to the coil. I set up a relay to bypass it and all was resolved.


Pertronix actually sells a kit for this with good instructions, part number 2001. If this ends up being your issue as well, use the kit with the diagram provided in the above thread (post number 2) and you should be good.

More relevant information scraped from this thread:
 
#10 ·
most carburetor problems are electrical.

A bad condenser or worn distributor bushing will do it as well.


ken
 
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Thanks guy. Very helpful and going in the right direction. Already have swapped distributor with a known good one. No Change. Have gone from points to pertronix and back again. No change. Have also changed condensers but will try anther new one tomorrow. Through all these changes/swaps the car starts right up idles and revs just fine. Brian
 
#12 ·
Lots of possibilities. Since it is running poor under load, I would check the flow through the jets to the boosters. Also, as soon as it runs poor, are you able to quickly pull the air horn and check the float level to confirm your fuel pump isn't falling behind? I had a similar situation with a 65 convertible that had a failing fuel pump.
 
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Thanks for the help and suggestions. The coil? Dwell is reading at just under 27. Coil is probably OK. As suggested, a couple of times, I pulled the top plate and took a look around. Primary bowl; the orange tip for the accelerator inlet check was a bit long so cut it back. Small bit of silicone obstructing one primary jet 'orifice'. Removed the silicone obstruction. Put everything back together and went for a short drive. Acceleration is back. Some driving will tell the tale? Brian
 
#15 ·
Check the dwell not only at an idle but run it up to 2500 and see if it stays there.
27 is a little low shoot for 30

ken