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Can a Rookie do this or would you find a shop?

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#1 ·
I finally got my 67 Vert home (by towing it)I had posted earlier regarding why it just died and was pretty sure it was a fuel filter, fuel pump, trash in line, etc problem. So here is the question.

I want to go ahead and replace the fuel tank, fuel pump, and blow out my lines. I replaced the filter, but the car still won't start. So is this something I can do? I don't have any experience with "fuel mechanics" but enjoy working on my car. The most difficult thing I have done has been replacing the turn signal switch. Would you guys recommend this to a Rookie mechanic or find a shop.

Any tips or advice would be great.
 
#2 ·
I vote "do it yourself".

The only caveat is "don't light yourself on fire". It turns out that gasoline, next to VX Nerve gas, is the most dangerous substance known to man.

You'll end up with a lot of it on you by the time you're done....but that's just part of it. Just make sure it doesn't ignite.

Phil
 
#3 ·
go ahead what could happen!!!!!
no,seriously, as long as you practice safety around the fuel, it is a straight forward repair. remove all the fuel, disconnect the lines, tank & fuel pump, put the fuel pump hose side into a can/bucket & blow out the line, then replace the tank, I would replace the 2 sections of hose while you have them apart, why not?
goood luck, remember you have to have a first time sometime!!
 
#5 ·
You can do it yourself just remember keep drop light away, and don't get under the lines when pulling the gas stings when you get in the eyes. You might want to use cloths you don't mind tossing in the trash swmbo might not like the smell of gas in the washer.
 
#6 ·
I vote for DIY
 
#10 ·
Isn't the whole idea of this project to get rid of all the crap? Why on earth would he want to save gas? If the guy can't afford gas, he needs a new hobby!!!!!
 
#11 ·
You can do it, and without burning down the house or killing yourself, if you're careful enough. Be sure to have a good fire extinguisher handy, prevent static electricity sparks, and just generally be very wary of the flammability of what you're working with. The rest should be no big deal, just takes a little time.
 
#14 ·
DIY.
The old gas is good for bee's nests and starting fires.
Have fun, sounds like a good project.
 
#15 ·
Maybe you could syphon most of the gas out of the tank. Remember that while liquid gas is flameable it the evaperated gas fumes that are the most volital and they tend to hover at floor level . Definately outside with goord ventalation. just go slow and be careful.
 
#16 ·
Thanks guys, I am very thankful for the advice. I will let you know of my progress (as I'm sure I will be asking questions through out the process.) Also thanks for all the safety advice, It reminded me to be sure and check my extinguisher's.
 
#17 ·
The job itself is simple, your biggest hurtles are getting the fuel safly out of the fuel tank and then disposing of it. Remember when drianing the tank to use ground straps on yourself as well as the car, static electricity biult up from the motion of the fuel going through the air can ignite the fuel and is the number one cause of fires from this type of repair, the second is from any ignition sourse. (furnaces etc...) Also when blowing the lines clear, remeber the fuel vapor is what is the most volitile! It is more explosive than dynamite!
 
#18 ·
I just changed my tank on Saturday. Total time was about 1/2 hour including draining the tank. I used spray bobm undercoating before installing the tank. The pump should be about 15-20 min to replace. If you have P/S, take the P/S pump off to get at the fuel pump.
 
#19 ·
when I had the 4X4 shop I replaced ALOT of IN-tank electric fuel pumps(mostly chebbies) and came up with a cheap and easy way to drain the tanks. buy a cheap elect. fuel pump(11 psi sold buy autozone and advance auto) and 8 feet of comparable fuel line. need 1 toggle switch and about 20 feet of 12 guage wire and 2 'gator clips.
you can drop the line in the tank and drain it almost completely but in your case I'd hook it up the the hard line on the frame rail first to see if it will draw from there. IF NOT then I suggest you check all the rubber line connections from front to back to see if they are dry rotted(very likely) as any small hole will cause a vaccuum/pressure issue. PM me if you need any other advice. I've changed over 100 fuel tanks.
AND I was a fuel system master tech. in the USAF on F-16's :biggrin: I KNOW WHAT NOT TO DO TO KEEP FROM :pissed:
 
#20 ·
I replaced the filter, but the car still won't start.
Is there gasoline in the carb?
Look down the venturis as you work the throttle...You should see two small streams of fuel spraying into the venturis.

I've found that a fuel blockage problem shows up first as the engine missing or lack of power at highway speeds... Not during starting or idle.

Try this...Remove the fuel line from the carb, attach a length of hose into a gallon jug or something and spin the engine. You should have a good strong stream of fuel. If no fuel I would suspect a bad fuel pump.
 
#21 ·
An excellent point. When i had my fuel line off of the car and then put it back on, i couldn't get it to start either. Cranked and cranked and cranked and nothing. I have a see-through filter right before the carb so i knew i wasn't getting any fuel. I was basically waiting for the fuel pump to push it up to the carb. I gave up and took the hose off of the fuel pump from the tank, had my brother wrap the air hose nozzle in a rag and stuck it in the fuel filler neck and blow air though the system. Once the fuel started to come out of the line i stuck it on the fuel pump real quick and then tightened the clamp. Within seconds i had fuel coming to my carb and it fired right up. Do the air hose trick and see if you can get fuel to the fuel pump. Once fuel is near the pump it will take it from there. UNLESS, you really want to spend the money on a new tank and lines. Thats when the while-i-am-at-its start kicking in and the next thing you know you have the motor out of the car and is in pieces :lol: :rofl: