[3speedcoupe]

I've gotten quite a few of the bolts for the engine and accessories mixed up while it was out at the machine shop being rebuilt. I've got the service manuals and such but can't seem to find a resource that can tell me what size and diameter bolt goes in a specific hole. Where can I find such a thing. Yes, I know - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. But this is where I find myself today and need some help.

Thanks

 

[kenash]

I've gotten quite a few of the bolts for the engine and accessories mixed up while it was out at the machine shop being rebuilt. I've got the service manuals and such but can't seem to find a resource that can tell me what size and diameter bolt goes in a specific hole. Where can I find such a thing. Yes, I know - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. But this is where I find myself today and need some help.

Thanks

Hi, You might check with AMK Products. They make bolt kits for or engines. Perhaps, if you organize them and take a pic. We might be able to help.
Good Luck!

 

[buckeyedemon]

personally i've found the service manuals to be almost worthless.

get the engine assembly manual and AMK's guide to ford fasteners and then you'll have 95% of the answers.

 

[3speedcoupe]

Thanks. That is the type of info I was looking for. I checked out the AMK site and was able to download a few pages of the catalog but will call after lunch and order a hardcopy. That looks like a great resource. I'll also see if I can find a better assembly manual as my stuff stops short of identifying the fasteners needed to assemble.

The engine came back from the machine shop assembled but I am trying to make sure I get the external components bolted up correctly. The ones currently in question are the (starter to bell housing), (alternator bracket to block), (water outlet to block), and (bolts for exhaust manifold).

 

[bryancobb]

Hey 3speed,

You will need (2) books from AMK. 1) Their Catalog 2) Their Ford Fastener book
Then you will need a set of the Osborne Assembly Manual which call out each bolt by # that corresponds with the # in the AMK Ford Book.

 

[3speedcoupe]

Thank Bryan. I have the wiring book by Osborne but will get the balance of the set. Again, thanks for the help. It was spot on.

 

[buckeyedemon]

Hey 3speed,

You will need (2) books from AMK. 1) Their Catalog 2) Their Ford Fastener book
Then you will need a set of the Osborne Assembly Manual which call out each bolt by # that corresponds with the # in the AMK Ford Book.

their catalog is online and is relatively easy to use.

 

[3speedcoupe]

Thanks. I'm getting ready to go online and see if I can identify a few items I know I need. If I have a $30 order they will send me a hardcopy of the catalog at no charge. Some of the kits might be what I need but I won't know until I get a better sense of how they package them.

My 2012 NPD catalog came in the mail today and I see where they have the Osborne assembly manuals. I may have to go over there tomorrow and get one. That will allow me to identify some of the fasteners I need. They also have the AMK Product Guide to Ford Fasteners but it is $35.

Thanks again for all the help.

 

[bryancobb]

You may not have ALL the information to decide what you need if you don't get the Ford book.

Let's take one bolt and I'll show you:

Step 1) Osborne manual shows that for my 66, the fender bolt to be ITEM A on the exploded view. In Bill of Materials, ITEM A is Ford P/N 378156-S2 Screw and Washer Assy.

Step 2) AMK Ford book shows in P/N Index (back of book), that there were 3 different types of this bolt(design changes) and that they are shown in the front part of the Ford book on pages 32, 42, and 43.

Step 3) Page 32 show a picture of a marked SEMS bolt with a toothed washer, a "G" marked bolt with a smooth washer, and shows the bolt to be 5/16-18x7/8"long with leadpoint. Page 42 shows a picture of an unmarked SEMS bolt with a huge toothed washer, and shows it to be 5/16-18x7/8"long with lead point. Page 43 shows a picture of a marked SEMS bolt with an external star washer, and shows it to be 5/16-18x7/8"long with lead point.Step

Step 4) The AMK Catalog index in the back shows 378156-S to be on page 103 and 118.

Step 5) Page 103 shows a kit (packet) of the (12) toothed washered bolts with an "S" extension to be AMK P/N B-11920 at $10.

Step 6) Page 118 shows a kit (packet) of the (12) star washered bolts with an "S2" extension to be AMK P/N B-10379 at $10.

 

[Black65]

The engine came back from the machine shop assembled but I am trying to make sure I get the external components bolted up correctly. The ones currently in question are the (starter to bell housing), (alternator bracket to block), (water outlet to block), and (bolts for exhaust manifold).

Those should be pretty easy to discern...
Group them by size and do some figurin'. Your main concern should be that you don't snap a bolt due to it being too long for the hole it's going into. Clean them up and take your time. Or better yet, get some new hardware. Now is a great time to freshen things up. I'm sure you spent some good money with the machine shop, what's a few more $ at this point. What was that quote? "An ounce of prevention..."

 

[kenash]

Hey 3speed,

You will need (2) books from AMK. 1) Their Catalog 2) Their Ford Fastener book
Then you will need a set of the Osborne Assembly Manual which call out each bolt by # that corresponds with the # in the AMK Ford Book.

Hi,
+1 for your recommendations. I have all of those and find them a valuable asset to my arsenal.

 

[kenash]

Hey guys,
I'll add, I think of all of the bolt on components, the water pump bolts have to be the most confusing, especially if new to the sport.
As mentioned previously, assemble by size then "do some figurin'"...good advice!
Happy Trails!

 

[slhstang]

If you've got a rebuilt engine and installing the Bolt-On Accessories, I'd invest in new hardware. I used Totally Stainless for a fantastic look and the assurance that the look would stay clean (without rust). Find them at:

Totally Stainless

 

[slhstang]

Those should be pretty easy to discern...
Group them by size and do some figurin'. Your main concern should be that you don't snap a bolt due to it being too long for the hole it's going into. Clean them up and take your time. Or better yet, get some new hardware. Now is a great time to freshen things up. I'm sure you spent some good money with the machine shop, what's a few more $ at this point. What was that quote? "An ounce of prevention..."

like Black65 says, thread the bolts in slowly all the way to avoid over torqueing and braking a bolt. Hopefully your machine shop chased all the threads and cleaned them out. If not, you'll need to chase the threads (not with a tap or die, but with thread chasers). Thread Chasers don't have the sharp cutting edge and are toleranced to go into the thread without reforming the thread. Clean the threads out completely and then run your new screws into the old threads to get a proper engagement. As I mentioned on my other post, Totally Stainless will deliver hardware bagged and tagged with the right locations (as other top of the line hardware suppliers do). Good luck on whichever direction you go.