I just recently removed the rear shocks and leaf springs on my 65 Fastback to replace them and when I removed the leaf support plate mounts I noticed that the plates are for a 67 rear end. I know that the rear axle is an 8 inch but how can I tell if this rear end is really from a 67 rear end and not correct to my 65. Here is a picture of the rear end if anyone can tell me if it's wrong rear end for my car.
Need help to ID this rear end?
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·Sure, no difference in body styles.
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·That's an early differential. It was used '65-'67, in Mustangs and intermediates.
So I'm confused....?. Is the rear end that I have correct for my car or is it from a 67 Fairlane as some of you suggested? Because it is approx 2 inches longer than an original 65-66 tapered axle. Also I didn't see it listed on this chart for a 65-66, unless someone has the next page that has the 67s listings to confirm. See attached chart that was posted on this forum by another member for another thread.
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The tag is only applicable if the original axle housing and carrier remain together. If one, or the other, ends up being changed then "who knows". If your rear axle housing does, actually, measure 54 1/4" from housing flange to housing flange then, in all probability, it came from a '66-67 Fairlane or Falcon.
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·It must be a '67 Fairlane housing. Its obvious it is not a Mustang housing. As for the differential, realize that after close to 50 years, parts get mixed around, She who knows if that diff came in that housing???
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+1 on what Bartl & PetesPonies stated. After 50 years, who knows what happened.
As for you situation, if you are dead set to have the correct rear end axle housing installed in your car, yea.....pull what you got and install the replacement correct style rear end.
If it were my Mustang, and the Mustang is not going to be used as a concours MCA (Mustang Club of America) show car where everything has to be correct, down to date codes on piece parts, paint stamps or paint marker markings.......if everything is working fine (set up, wheel well issues, cracking of the sheet metal where the top of the shocks mount to the car, u joints not wearing out pre maturely, leaf spring mount welds are holding up, no cracking for deformity with the lower shock mounts, no ride height issues, the 5 bolt pattern is the same on the front and it is on the back), shake and bake, go with what you got! You can pretty much enter almost any car show with that you have now and be ok.
I do have to say though, if it just bugs ya that the correct style housing is not in the Mustang, it would bug me also.
As for the affect of having a 67 style rear end housing in a 65 and the value of your Mustang as a whole, again......unless you confirm that your carburetor, alternator, fuel pump, radiator, engine, transmission, etc. etc. etc are all concours correct with date codes (most likely not) and or that you have a rare "K code" (271 HP) Mustang Fastback, is minimal (if it is even noticed by the next owner). But if you sell it in the future as being 65 correct but non concours/non numbers matching, yea....you have an issue there.
+1 on what Bartl & PetesPonies stated. After 50 years, who knows what happened.
As for you situation, if you are dead set to have the correct rear end axle housing installed in your car, yea.....pull what you got and install the replacement correct style rear end.
If it were my Mustang, and the Mustang is not going to be used as a concours MCA (Mustang Club of America) show car where everything has to be correct, down to date codes on piece parts, paint stamps or paint marker markings.......if everything is working fine (set up, wheel well issues, cracking of the sheet metal where the top of the shocks mount to the car, u joints not wearing out pre maturely, leaf spring mount welds are holding up, no cracking for deformity with the lower shock mounts, no ride height issues, the 5 bolt pattern is the same on the front and it is on the back), shake and bake, go with what you got! You can pretty much enter almost any car show with that you have now and be ok.
I do have to say though, if it just bugs ya that the correct style housing is not in the Mustang, it would bug me also.
As for the affect of having a 67 style rear end housing in a 65 and the value of your Mustang as a whole, again......unless you confirm that your carburetor, alternator, fuel pump, radiator, engine, transmission, etc. etc. etc are all concours correct with date codes (most likely not) and or that you have a rare "K code" (271 HP) Mustang Fastback, is minimal (if it is even noticed by the next owner). But if you sell it in the future as being 65 correct but non concours/non numbers matching, yea....you have an issue there.
Well first of all I want to thank everyone here that educated me on my dilemma with the rear end of my car. It did bug me that the rear end was not correct or even close to my 65 fastback. With that being said it was obvious that the 67 axel on my car is 2 inches wider than a mustangs normal width and I can already foresee having clearance issues with my new leaf springs, shocks and other misc parts. So after a week long search on Craigslist and after looking at a few 65-66 axles, I finally found one to be more correct to my car and for the parts that I had ordered. The new axle is a 65-66 with tapered ends, it measures 57 1/4 from flange to flange and had the following Ford axle tag: WCZ-E
2.80 4MA 911, it also showed 2K2 near the time stamp and on the third member C20W. Can anyone tell me what these numbers mean? I think I finally got the right axle to avoid those other problems that I mention with my 67 axle. Thanks again, FB65
2.80 4MA 911, it also showed 2K2 near the time stamp and on the third member C20W. Can anyone tell me what these numbers mean? I think I finally got the right axle to avoid those other problems that I mention with my 67 axle. Thanks again, FB65
The tag decodes as: WCZ-E = 65 and 66 289 2v manual or auto trans. 2:80 = gear ratio. 4MA = 1964 Dec. 1 st week. 911 = axle plant ( unknown ). The C2OW is probable the pinion support ? Dated 1962, Oct 2nd. Could that 2K2 be a 5K2 ?
This axle housing and case, my opinion, seem to be a pretty good match for your car. Pictures are of the case and pinion support, C2OW 5E10, and axle shaft housing from my 5/65 car. Brian
This axle housing and case, my opinion, seem to be a pretty good match for your car. Pictures are of the case and pinion support, C2OW 5E10, and axle shaft housing from my 5/65 car. Brian
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Sounds like a good one. Now you'll need to get a pair of lower shock plates and u-bolts as the ones you have are made for the larger tube axle.
H bartl, I was lucky enough that it came with the u-bolts and three out of four nuts. It also came with a very clean and unbent brake line and e-brake cables. now I'm in the process of cleaning it up and going thru it before I refurbish it. I Will post some before and after pictures later.
Thanks FB65
Thanks FB65
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I have a Ford Truck rear end. Plate # OM-AG1 3FA 00 9 344A. WHAT IS IT
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