Ford Strokers (Woody) is highly recommended but you will have to wait for it.

 

Welcome to the post-china virus world we live in. Suppliers can't find workers so they can resume production and what used to take a couple of weeks at the most can now take a year, if you can even get it.

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I'm hoping you guys can give me some information or direction.....Thank you.

Get a lawyer to send this guy a letter demanding the money back. It doesn't cost much to do this.

 

I waited 7 months for my blueprint crate 302 last year. Between a shortage of 5.0 cores and supply chain issues that’s just the way it is right now. It’s probably worse for small time engine builders.

 

Did you get your grand back?

Fastest will probably be a local builder but as people have said, parts are going to be tough.

 

There is a 42 week wait for my custom crank. Welcome to the big parts backlog.

 

Paid Woody for my Dart 363 in August ‘21. Received it July ‘22. You must be patient. You gave the answer to your own problem in your first post. “supplies are scarce”. There you go.

 

An engine builder needs parts to build an engine. No parts, no engine.

 

With a '70 and looking for a crate engine I'd be looking up Woody at Fordstrokers.com for a 351-based stroker.

 

Looks like Elvis has left the building. Purple Elvis that is. I almost pulled the trigger on a 347 from tri star motors. There was a 6 month wait last year so decided to go local. About the same price not if it was the right decision still. Trigger star has a good reputation.

 

Or you could buy a Ford Performance 363. There are vendors that discount this a bit and some that will fully dress the engine. Just another option.

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347 long block, “estimated” ship date 1/17/2023 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mll-bp3474ct

 

@KTK This one is from Blueprint. 6 available…….

 

small shops are up to a year or more depending on how fast they can source parts. the only way I will buy a motor is if they have an engine dyno so I don't have to worry about breaking in the motor and check for any issues.

I went to prestige motorsports in North Carolina. they built my 427w stroker in 4 months, well worth it. they give you a build sheet with all part numbers/cam card etc.. they take pictures of the build before and after assembly and finally give you a dyno video of the final numbers. I went with their 520hp 427 stroker with a Man-o-war block and AFR heads with a mild cam that provides good vacuum.

final numbers was 520hp 547tq, chasis dyno was 460rwhp 475rwtq with a TKO and 3:50 gears.

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my motor from their channel:

 

I had my local machine shop build my 351W stroked to a 427. I used my old AFR heads and the machine shop sourced all the forged parts for the short block and even had Erson custom grind a cam for me. Had it done from order to delivery in 4 months. This was in late 2021.

Now, if my local machine shop couldn't have handled the job Prestige would have been my next stop. Have heard nothing, but good things about those guys.

 

Not 302/8.2” deck based, but ZSR had several Dart SHP 9.5” deck blocks available 2-3 weeks ago. If you’re interested/open to a 351W/9.5” deck stroker give him a call https://shop.zsrengines.com/products/dart-95-shortblocks

 

@KTK Have you called ZSR? See what they have available?

 

Call one of my engine suppliers for a 390 and was told 12 to 14 weeks. Supply chain issues can still be crazy.

 

@KTK

could you IM me this famous shop in PSL please? I’m in the area and would like to check them out.

 

This will be hard to hear. But I mean it with your best interest in mind.

If you thought someone was going to rebuild an engine for $1750, or ever $2750, you clearly don't have much experience in this industry. And that makes you an easy target for bad actors like this.

Power Tour isn't a competition. There is no "fastest car" award. It's a very long cruise night.

Maybe vet any future deals here or with a friend with more experience.

Sorry if this is a bit forward.

 

Power Tour isn't a competition. There is no "fastest car" award. It's a very long cruise night.

Some quick google found a guy named Edward Miller that are 4 times class vinner at Drag Week in a Duster. Seems he run a shop called TheEngineWorks, that have or maybe had address in Port St Lucie FL.

edit ... seems I was slightly wrong and That Mr Miller actually won Drag Week in 2006 acording to HotRod magazine.

"Eddie Miller's purple Plymouth Duster won overall in 2006, won Pro Street Power Adder on nitrous in 2008, and took the Pro Street Naturally Aspirated title in 2013 and 2014."

 

Drag Week is not Power Tour. They are totally different events.

Power Tour is a cruise.

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Drag Week is not Power Tour. They are totally different events.

I know. The chance is OP isn't super familar with those 2 events and got it slightly wrong. I just posted that it's actual easy to find an real person that fits 95% to the details that was written. I do not judge if he lying or actually are hit by the same no-parts-available problems as most engine builders seems to be right now. It you want the see and hear the guy I believe OP are talking about:

 

You are both correct. He is real (I saw his car stored on a lift) and the deal was $1750 for a machined (decked, bored, align honed, stress relieved, cam bearings installed) virgin 302.

I sent him a deposit (Zelle) because he said he already pulled the block and started cleaning (shot blasting). He sent me pictures of the block and it looked brand new.

I asked him if he would be interested in doing the rotating assembly and he said yes but he wanted more money. I had a bad feeling because 6 weeks turned into 3 months so I stopped by his place to see if he was real and to look at my engine.

He lives out in the sticks in central Florida with another mechanic friend. There were a couple of cars on lifts having basic maintenance done. I asked to see my engine and he said that it wasn't there. He didn't offer to show me any of his work, he wouldn't look me in the eye, and basically kept me from going past his front garage door.

I know how expensive it is to build an engine and asked him to draw up a contract for the rotating assembly which I would be happy to sign. He told me that he doesn't have contracts, only invoices.

I asked for the machined block last week and haven't heard anything. He seemed like a good guy with a very impressive racing history.

 

You are both correct. He is real (I saw his car stored on a lift) and the deal was $1750 for a machined (decked, bored, align honed, stress relieved, cam bearings installed) virgin 302.

I sent him a deposit (Zelle) because he said he already pulled the block and started cleaning (shot blasting). He sent me pictures of the block and it looked brand new.

I asked him if he would be interested in doing the rotating assembly and he said yes but he wanted more money. I had a bad feeling because 6 weeks turned into 3 months so I stopped by his place to see if he was real and to look at my engine.

He lives out in the sticks in central Florida with another mechanic friend. There were a couple of cars on lifts having basic maintenance done. I asked to see my engine and he said that it wasn't there. He didn't offer to show me any of his work, he wouldn't look me in the eye, and basically kept me from going past his front garage door.

I know how expensive it is to build an engine and asked him to draw up a contract for the rotating assembly which I would be happy to sign. He told me that he doesn't have contracts, only invoices.

I asked for the machined block last week and haven't heard anything. He seemed like a good guy with a very impressive racing history.

Doesn't matter if he is a "good guy" you got finessed. small shops like you described can't source parts quickly. ppl nowadays, want customer service and actual ETA's small shops can't produce that and just tell you to be patient.

Give prestige a call, they are a large company that can get dibs on parts first as they have a team to source parts for their engine builders, they also do in-house cylinder heads, go with a Man o war block rotating assembly and you'll be happy.

 

I purchased my 363 stroker from Keith Craft in Arkansas. Has a great reputation. These motors can get pricey really fast. What's your budget?

 

Nothing set in stone but I'd like to stay under $25k. Also, not looking for a race motor, just something fresh with a bit of power for the street.

 

Don't share your budget with the builder, that is a lot of dough for a street engine.

 

It appears many of the small shops recommended here are out of business.

Mar 26, 2016 — Keith Craft passed ownership of his business on to Lance Smith. The name of the business is now Craft Performance Engines.

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It appears many of the small shops recommended here are out of business.

Mar 26, 2016 — Keith Craft passed ownership of his business on to Lance Smith. The name of the business is now Craft Performance Engines.

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The name of that outfit is now "Out-of-Business." They shut down several months ago. There's a thread about them over on the FE Forum about a bunch of people who got screwed out of money and parts.

 

I'd check with Prestige Motorsports, I went with them for my 347 stroker and they have an excellent customer service base as well as reputation. Or Tri Star Engines, just depends on how much horsepower you want, how much you want to spend and so forth. With regards to the local engine builder, that definitely sucks and I'd obviously try asking for my money back, if you haven't already. If he won't, then get an attorney or the BBB involved.

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I paid around 15k, shipped to CA. they offer turn-key kits if you are not going to reuse parts, so it will be around 20K or more depending on what you need. I didn't need any of that as I had other parts from my old 393 so I saved a few hundred bucks there.

not sure what you're goals are other than street performance, but I assume 450hp or less. if it were me, I say go big or go home if your budget is around 25k and go manual or AODE.

they ship their engines in a huge wooden crate, so I highly recommend them.

 

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I don't think I could build a SBF without using Mahle power pack pistons. Them little buggers will almost instantaneously rev into the twilight zone!

 

Another small shop is out. Ford strokers was bought out by Anderson Ford Motorsport. Most of the remaining shops are quoting 8 to 10 months for a build (ZSR). I will check out Prestige. Do you guys have any experience with Summit or Jegs? They are advertising a 400+ hp stroked SBF with forged rotating assembly and aluminum heads shipped in less than 3 weeks. After doing some research these engines are built by many of the smaller guys recommended here (ATK, Blueprint, etc.).

 

How did you find this out? The website looks the same-ish. And who is Anderson Ford Motorsports? The last time I talked to Woody he was mowing his lawn because he had no parts to build engines and was a few in. I guess I'll have to do a junkyard LS when the 331 bits the dust for the last time!