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OK, this thread is a spin-off of the thread I started on 8” vs 8.8” or 9” rear ends. I KNOW I want to switch from 2.79 to 3.55 gears. I’m not so sure on the posi or limited slip issue. I’ve done some more research now, and I know I don’t want a spool or locker (street drivability issues). Trac-locs seem to have potential clutch-life issues, but the non-clutch units like true-trac or powertrax look cool (& spendy). I think I’d be spending $1,100+ on a non-clutch pumpkin, and slightly less on a trac-loc (like TJ’s although he does offer the true trac option for $200). I am considering spending this, but am starting to wonder if the added cost of a “posi” type unit is worth it at all. I could spend the grand+, but man, I’ve got plenty of to-do’s on the mustang list and I have many other (better?) uses for some of that dough.
So here’s the issue: I know the bang-for-the-buck of the 3.55s will be worth it. But is a posi unit worth the added expense? I won’t be taking the car to the track, and I don’t need to do beautiful twin-streak burnouts. I may make a few stoplight romps here and there, but nothing hard-core. Outside of track drag racing or burnouts where/when would I miss having posi? I’m thinking of just switching to 3.55s and keeping my “uncool” open diff. But I want to hear your arguments to the contrary. In what circumstances have you been really glad you spent the $ for your posi? Or not?
 
I did it, I wont ever build a car that I drive without it again. The reason, rear steering.

With an arning drop on the front, and good alignment specs the rear end can become a predictable and fun toy in the curves. It's not all about drag racing.
 
It's true that among car guys a peg leg rear is uncool. I switched from 2:79 to 3:55 last year as part of an AOD conversion and stayed with the peg leg. It wan't the cost as much as I just didn't see the need for a posi. I don't drive my car in the rain or at the track. I cruise in it and occasionally churp the "tire" when leaving a stop light. Even with the occasional car guy's disapproving comment, I can't say I regret my decision.
 

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If your engine is at all built, you'll burn one tire almost every time you take off, especially with the first gear ratio in the T5. I have a 3.35 first in my T5 and a 3.40 TL rear. It is stil easy to over power in the first three gears. You should have long life out of a solid TL if you change the gear oil every couple of years and add the friction modifier it requires. I have over 300,000 miles on the one I put together and it has been exercised quite well at times. I'm not at all sorry that I put one in.
 
It is not that much more in cost and I believe you will regret not spending a little extra. It also gives some degree to bragging rights when people ask what you have in your car.
Can you live without it? Sure.
Is it nice for the times you need it? You bet.

I feel it is cheaper to do it right 1 time.
 
Why go through the expense and work of changing the gear ratio and not go traction loc? The units themselves aren't real expensive and should last a long time. I think most would regret not spending the extra few hundred and getting it right the first time. JMHO, John
 
I have a detroit truetrac in my 8in and I love it.
 
With 450 to 500HP I cannot imagine only having 1 wheel traction, its spins the tires enough with my tru trac so I am glad I did it. For 200 extra dollars it seems like a no brainer.
 
Why not have the gears changed out in the rear end that you have now?..If you decide you need a posi carrier you can buy one and have it done later....If you run a decent set of sticky tires your traction issues won't be that bad even with an open rear...Another option would be to watch for a used 8 inch out of a V6 mustang II with manual trans..ALot of them had 3.40 gears..
 
3:25 Trac-Loc here. Two black stripes beats one, every day.

Traction is nice too. But if you ever want to let the car get a little sideways, Trac-Loc is a must.

Plus, IMO when you put that 3.55 in, you will be smoking that pegleg constantly.
 
Do it. Yes you can live without it, but why when it's available? It's not just bragging rights... it's also a safety feature. When I ride my motorcycle I try to not ride in the rain, but every now and then it happens. Same with these cars, we try but sometimes stuff happens, and I know with how light the back ends of these cars are I would want two wheels grabbing the road over one. Introduce a little power and the point gets exagerated. Maybe you want it later... then you're tearing everything down again.
 
Like everyone said, do it. If you do the gears, might as well as do everything. I felt a big difference going from open to trac-loc. Plus if you have a shop putting gears in and then you decide to go trac loc later, you're paying more for labor. DO IT!!
 
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Thanks guys, good input. I will bite the bullet and like was said so many times, "do it right the first time". I built several cars when I was youger (and poorer) and then took a break for many years. Now that I'm back at it, I still tend to look at getting things done the cheapest way possible. And as I am learning, that's not always best (or cheapest in the long run). Again, thanks for the input, and for keeping me on the right, um...trac.
 
I'll tell you what makes a limited slip differential worthwhile.....it's when you are making that quick right-on-red in to traffic and the road is a little slick and at the same moment you feel the right rear just spinning away you look up in your rearview mirror and see the Freightliner logo fast approaching.....That's when you wish you had it... (ask me how I know).
 
I'll tell you what makes a limited slip differential worthwhile.....it's when you are making that quick right-on-red in to traffic and the road is a little slick and at the same moment you feel the right rear just spinning away you look up in your rearview mirror and see the Freightliner logo fast approaching.....That's when you wish you had it... (ask me how I know).
Of course this can always backfire as the posi or trac loc can also allow you to spin it all the way around (if you are the type that likes to pull fast out in front of semi's)..Then you have that Freightliner logo staring you right in the face through the windshield!:shocked:

True Story: I just watched a kid, who was obvioiusly joy riding his dads C5 Corvette this summer do exactly that. He pulled out fast making a right turn into traffic and thought he'd impress some girls by getting on it. Well he spun that thing around like it was on an oil slick (it was actually kind of cool). But then you saw that "Oh Sh*t" look on his inexperienced face, and then he overcompensated it and ended up swinging it completely the other way (now facing oncoming traffic) and it ended up high siding on to the concrete curb median thing that separates the lanes. I pulled over to see if he was ok. Both alum rims were completely busted. The front lower arm looked like it was severely bent and pulled under, and the fiberglass rocker was cracked in half. I felt bad for him (only about 2 seconds) as he had to call dad and laughed my a$$ off as I got in my car and drove away looking in my mirror at that mess. It was a nice car but man that was something to see right in front of you. Posi is great, just make sure if you have lots of HP, that you can harness it in a "drift"!
 
I've debated the same issue 8in open vs posi vs 9in upgrade. good read from all!!!
 
Of course this can always backfire as the posi or trac loc can also allow you to spin it all the way around (if you are the type that likes to pull fast out in front of semi's)..Then you have that Freightliner logo staring you right in the face through the windshield!:shocked:
Yeah, that's true....but to back off enough for the one wheel to get traction makes you look like Granny pulling out into traffic in her '62 Falcon 170 automatic pulling a trailer.
 
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