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Value 351 W or 351 C 1970

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#1 ·
Is it just a preference or is a 1970 MACH 1 Worth more or less regarding the 351 engine ?
I here less were biult with the 351 windsor motor .
The 351 cleveland seams more popular, I have even herd a few say they never herd of a 351 windsor in a 1970 Mach 1 mustang .
So out of curiousity in your opinion or by the book value .
What holds a higher book value .
A 1970 Mach 1 with a 351 2v windsor motor or
A 1970 Mach 1 with a 351 4v windsor motor or
A 1970 Mach 1 with a 351 4v cleveland motor
All three identical cars except the motor .
Anyone have the production numbers for this car and year with either motor ?
Was there much difference in sticker price back then ?? just curious ..
I,m not bias I like both (3) LOL.....
 
#2 ·
Most Valuable would probably be the 351C 4V, IMHO. That being said, it was the only 4V 351 available in 1970. You could not get a Factory 351W 4V in 1970, only 1969. In 1970 you got either a 351W or 351C with 2V or a 351C 4V.
 
#3 ·
I don't think the value is different for a Windsor vs. Cleveland. So, if the '70 Mach in question was a 2 bbl motor, it is what it is. Some people prefer a W, some prefer a C. Windsor is lighter, better oiling, cheaper parts. Cleveland is better valve train/engine breathing.

As MagMustangs said, only a Cleveland was available if the motor was a 4bbl in 1970. That will always be worth more if all cars were the same otherwise.
 
#5 ·
Oddly, there's no way to tell if the car had a 351W or 351C 2V in 70, Ford called them both engine code "H". You didn't get a choice, BTW, Ford used whichever they felt like that day.

I have seen a few 70 351W cars. Oddly, they all had shaker ram air. Musta been Ford's little joke, building 1970 351W 2V ram air single exhaust cars.
 
#7 ·
4V motor is at least a 10% premium over a 2V. H code cars motor does not really matter.
 
#8 ·
theres much controversy over the W and C on the 70 M1.
Ive never seen a 70 W M1 but others say they exist and can prove it. I dunno I cant argue with someone who says they seen and and can prove it..

All the Ford Literature of the day and I have plenty say. "introducing the new
351C 2V as the base engine for the 70 M1" or similar wording to that.
 
#12 ·
Have a Marti report on this one.



Heres one I,m looking at .. #,s matching...

OF05H......
0 = 70
F = MICH.
05 = MACH 1
H = 2V

On bottom or report it states ...

Your vehicle was ordered with the following options ..
351 windsor motor
Black hood stipre
Rear deck spoiler
FMX Select shift criuse O matic
F70 14 Belted Tires w/ Raise white letters
Power Front Disc Brakes
Power Steering
AM Radio
Your Car Was Actualy Produced On September 29, 1969- seven days behind schedule.

I never thought of the 4V only being a Cleveland motor ,
And just seen it listed that way recently..
Also 2V C or 2V W either way makes sence, also early 70,s with 351W and later biulds 351C
 
#9 ·
We have had just as many 1970 351W 2V as we have had 1970 351C 2V, quite a few. Never had one with Shaker, but I could see Mach 1 with that. 22GT is right, there was no way to know what you were gonna get with an 'H' Code.
 
#10 ·
but the OP is refering to M1's

the other models came either way and those i have seen with both engines in them
 
#11 ·
In 1970 H code would be whatever the plant had on hand at the moment, till they ran out of the W's, All M codes were C. (even tho there are rumors of a few leftover W's got stuck in)

As for the Shaker, at the time it could have been added as a dealer installed option.
I bought a 70 Boss 302 in early 71 off the local Ford lot, I had the shaker added in the deal costing a $1.65 rise in the monthly payments.
 
#13 ·
like i said i cant argue with that but all the sales brochures say other wise lol.

give marti a call maybe he knows or has info on it