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RyanSterling966 said:
I don't entirely understand all of the Eleanor hate really. It's a great design frankly and the car wears the modifications quite well. My only issue with it is that it has been done to death. Part of driving a classic and modifying one for that matter to me anyways is about being unique and putting your own stamp on it. I think it would be cool if one of these aftermarket companies who sell Eleanor kits would revise or update it a bit and smooth out some of the bulges that to me add clutter to the lines.
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that's exactly why I don't like it. It's a little too busy. Too much is going on in the front nose.

Within the red box is what I am talking about. That out of place housing for that small light to sit in
 

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Stuffing 8 lights in the nose like that is always going to make for a busy looking face.
 
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It lacks creativity for one; all of them look the same with the exact same color combination. Make it your own.
All that fiberglass adds an expect of 'ricey-ness' to the car.
It skyrocketed the prices of 67-68 Fastbacks to astronomical levels.

Here's a restomod I'm fond of:

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donkeykong said:
The inherent problem with your insistent use of the phrases..."many others will agree" and "the loathing most people have" is strictly tied to this site and, no disrespect, the same age demographic of car purists you may meet outside of this site.

It's Mustangs purists on this site who are mad well done Eleanor's are worth far more money than anybody is getting out of their stock '67 Mustang Fastbacks that are the one's who don't like the car.

I guarantee if you went up to random people on the street holding up a picture of Eleanor and a picture of a stock '67 Fastback and asked them which they would prefer to own/drive the overwhelming majority of people would pick Eleanor! Especially, if you're talking to guys 40 and under!!

You, as well as the rest of the haters in this thread loathe the vehicle...fine! Most everyone else loves it! That's the actual reality of the situation, reflected by Rick's comment that his kit is flying off the shelves and he has a 2 year waiting list of people lined up to hand him probably somewhere in the realm of $80,000+ to build them an Eleanor! He also stated the demand has been building year over year...and the movie came out 16 years ago!

Enough with the "many" and "most" comments you and others are making...it strictly reflects the opinion of older Mustang hobbyists here, not the general population. Especially the casual car fan or the American male that was 10-25 years old when the movie came out 16 years ago that had posters of Eleanor on their bedroom wall!

Those are the facts my man. :cheers:
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I was speaking specifically about the people who don't like the Eleanor cars. Thus, most of those people. Not most people overall.

Again, if you like those cars, cool. I'm still not convinced they're as popular as you believe. Apparently, you know a lot of people who like those cars. I don't know anyone who does. Thus, our perspectives are different.

I do think it's interesting you called me out when you thought I was making generalizations about most people overall. Yet, you can guarantee most people overall would prefer an Eleanor "kitted" Mustang? Possibly. But I'm not convinced of your "facts".
 
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Boom said:
That is the Villain Mustang. I believe I read somewhere that the nose is a modified Eleanor piece. Those are nice looking cars, but at $150k is out of reach for most people.

1968 Mustang Villain by CR Supercars - CR Supercars
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actually doesnt look that bad- what i get a laugh out of is
"investment starting at $154 " lol really its an INVESTMENT?

while i see lots of little things that look wrong (cheesy rad hose cover?- regular AC rubber hoses- No power brakes_ and i cant imagine that speaker by the TCP clutch pedal isnt in the way to actually drive it easily.

- at first glance it looks decent- i like the DS shock towers and the fact that the inner fenders look stock ribbing near rad support - thats a nice touch - has a good stance - and doesnt look played out (except for the TCP pedals LOL -- IMO.. }

at least its a somewhat fresh idea- looks like 68 shelby hood with the bumpers tucked.

compared to the eleanor cars on ebay for $139 this is actually a car with some REAL parts on it - overall i think its well done. at least with the parts on the one in the pictures i can see how that could be $150k with labor..
 
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Klutch said:
I was speaking specifically about the people who don't like the Eleanor cars. Thus, most of those people. Not most people overall.

Again, if you like those cars, cool. I'm still not convinced they're as popular as you believe. Apparently, you know a lot of people who like those cars. I don't know anyone who does. Thus, our perspectives are different.

I do think it's interesting you called me out when you thought I was making generalizations about most people overall. Yet, you can guarantee most people overall would prefer an Eleanor "kitted" Mustang? Possibly. But I'm not convinced of your "facts".
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Let's be honest...they're not actual facts. I 100% believe it to be true however. How many teenagers, 20, 30 or 40 year old's do you know and have actually asked? I asked around my warehouse and installation crews yesterday this very question. Out of the 20+ people I asked, all men, I only had 3 say they would take the stock '67 FB over the Eleanor. I'm supposing I really don't need to bring up the demographics as everyone can imagine the age of the 3 that liked the original best...1 late 50's, 2 early 60's. The two women I asked last night, my wife and her best friend both in their 30's, instantly recognized and chose "Eleanor". Is this scientific, not at all, but it's the people I had on hand to ask.

Really it's not surprising. What captivated the attention of the 10-18 year old boy in 1968, "Bullitt". You're not getting any cooler than that for the time period. What captivated the attention of the 10-18 year old boy in 2000, "Gone in 60 Seconds". You're not getting any cooler than that for the time period.

It's all perspective of what you grew up on and what was your "dream" car.

As far as you not being convinced that Eleanor is as popular as I believe, that's strictly your perception. You're entitled to that. Mustangs to Fear has empirical data in his sales figures however that does back up my assertion that "Eleanor" is still popular today...and growing in popularity!
 
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Harryburroughs said:
So much Eleanor hate [emoji848] I think there mad because they demand silly money over stock
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1)The customizations are dated.
2)The modifications weren't universally loved back when no one had ever seen Foose's design and were seeing it for the first time.

3)Unique Performance soured the part of the market that acyually liked them.

4)Since the core of what makes a Plain Jane fastback different than an "Eleanor" is a paint job and a few fiberglass parts, good fastbacks were being taken off the market for cheap, quicky mods hoping to flip. There was a fairly epic thread back in the day (was deleted) where a guy made an Eleanor clone in his driveway "cheap and fast" and cut every corner imaginable so that all yhe problems he was glossing over became "someone elses problem." This is the perceived norm for "Eleanor clones."

5) It's a movie car. Bullitt is *the* "Movie Mustang" car and people resent the popularity and attention that Foose's car got.

6) They called it a GT 500 when none of the vehicles used were GT 500s. To the Mustang community, the GT 500 was always a special car but it was not a super popular vehicle. The Eleanor car broadcast "our" car to the world and it made everyone and their little sister *dreamy eyed* at the thought of GT 500s. In my opinion, that was our Hemi. If a movie had done a "Hemi Cuda" and had done nothing but paint the block Orange, the MOPAR crowd would be in an uproar at that and they would be justified in their anger.

7) Before the Gone in Sixty Seconds remake, if you asked a guy what car was Eleanor, you kind of got a feeling for how much of a "Mustang Guy" he was when he answered yellow '73 Mach I. Halicki made a full length feature movie just so he could film the longest chase scene in history, and he did it in "The last of the Wild Mustangs" before the government gelded them all.

....it's complicated. It really is a beautiful modified Mustang. But there's more to it than that.
 
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At one time I liked the "E" cars now I hate them. The Fiberglass addons make most of the cars I have seen look cheap and clapped out in person.

This goes for any over the top restomods as well....as styles and preferences change these "E" cars and like type restomods become dated for the simple reason that they are no longer classic.....
 
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