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What I learned today about Edelbrock carbs on a 1966 289 V8

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I learned a few lessons today on attempting to fit an Edelbrock 1403 carb onto a factory 4v intake (Ford) for a 1966 289 engine. The Ford intake is 4 equal diameter, equal-distance holes. The Edelbrock has larger diameter butterfly valves in the secondary. Guess what? Yup, can't open those secondaries if the carb is bolted onto the intake. In addition, there is something about the shape of the primary butterflies that they also will not open more than a few degrees, before hitting the intake. Also, the throttle linkage is too "long" and hits up against the factory valve covers. Finally, the "hipo" style chrome air cleaner base will not clear the Edelbrock "straight" fuel inlet pipe and also will not clear the automatic choke housing.

Here is what I did to fix all of that. First, I bought a carb spacer (TD brand, part number 2280) which is a 4 hole 1 inch spacer made out of aluminum. I thought it was a pheonalic material, but it was just poor packaging which made the aluminum spacer look non metallic. The holes in the spacer are slightly larger than the Edebrock primary openings, but not as large as the secondary openings. I clamped the spacer down and using a die grinder, I chamfered the leading edges of the secondary holes, on the top side of the spacer. This created room for the secondary butterfly valves to clear the spacer. The added height allowed the throttle linkage to clear the valve covers. I replaced the original fuel inlet with a banjo fitting and pointed it straight down. I still have a problem with the air cleaner base not clearing the auto choke housing. Edelbrock makes a spacer that fits on the top of the carb and lifts up the air cleaner base. That should do the trick.

I used a Mr. Gasket brand throttle return spring set up bolted to the intake, using the intake to block mounting bolt around cylinder number 7. For throttle linkage, I took the stock rod and flipped it so that it mounted on the accel pedal linkage on the driver's side and not the passenger side. This lined it up so that is perfectlyi fit into the opening in the carb throttle linkage. Just have to insert one of those teflon or metal rod retainers, like used on the door handle and door lock rods. What is a bummer is that Edelbrock will sell you a carb for a 289 but does not make an adapter so as to use the stock manifold. They have adapters for GM and Chrysler intakes, but not Ford. That bites. Guess they want you to buy a performer 289 intake.

Well, there it is, about 4 hours of chasing parts and fabricating stuff to do a 20 minute carb mount project. Hope this helps someone.
 
#2 ·
I was unaware that the 1403 had bigger secondaries than primaries. This isn't the case with the 1406 or 1405. Mr. Gasket makes a cool "universal carburator bushing" that makes hooking up the throttle real clean and easy (Summit sells it for about $5).

I'm confused on it not clearing the valve covers, but I guess you can show me that delima when we have the NorCal VMF poker night, if I don't see you before then.

You can use the Specter "drop base" air filter with their adapter to clear the fuel inlet and choke housing, but sounds like you've already found a solution for that. I used to have the drop base filter on my car until I went with the HEI style distributor cap (Stephanie now has it on her car).

Here's a pic of my linkage setup. I had to do some custom mods for the double return spring since I've got one hole filled with the AOD TV cable (click on a pic for a larger image):
http://mach1.classic-mustang.net/misc/1linkage_s.jpg
http://mach1.classic-mustang.net/misc/2linkages.jpg
 
#3 ·
I also had to install a spacer under my Edelbrock even with Performer manifold so that the Lokar AOD cable would not bind on the valve cover but the chrome air cleaner (can't remember what kind) fit fine. OBTW, Thanks John for all the tips on the AOD install. I couldn't be happier with it. ::
 
#4 ·
Gee, mine went on very easily with the factory cast iron intake. I kept the factory PCV spacer and used a spherical end from Mc Master Carr for the throttle. Even my repro hipo air cleaner works without a hitch! Very uneventful installation on mine ::
http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL106/716707/1619363/19044696.jpg
 
#5 ·
ok, ok, almost got me fooled there. I see that you have aftermarket valve covers and also a carb spacer. If you had tried bolting the carb directly to the manifold and it is a 1403 (not a 1405 or 1406), you would not have been able to do it. The throttle connection looks pretty trick! Thanks for the idea.
 
#7 ·
11 year-old thread...

Anyway, I think the 1403 (500 cfm) is a better choice for a stock 289.

600 cfm with the 1406 is a bit too much. That said, I'm sure someone will chime in saying it worked fine for them.