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Why do some roll the odometer back during restoration?

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#1 ·
ehay 2423460104 67 Shelby GT500

Now there are several things that SCARE me about that auction (most of all the price)...but the strangest is the fact the Odometer has been rolled back to zero during restoration.

The same thing was done to my vert at some point...but that was the only part of the "restoration" that they got right.

For one thing, I always thought that was against the law to do. In fact, I know of at least one car dealer in the area that did serious time in the pen for it.

If you look at the auction I've cited, my favorite part is that the guy that did the restoration "suddenly died". In other words, "If you have any questions about this car or its authenticity...don't bother because Joe died. If you are unhappy with the car after you buy it...sorry but Joe died. If this car is a complete fake...Hell, we didn't know...Joe died."

Maybe I'm just paranoid. The car's beautiful...especially underneath...but Shelby's demand such a premium that I'd want to completely review the history of one before I bought it...and that would be tough to do because, you know, Joe? He's dead man.

Phil
 
#2 ·
It's only illegal to misrepresent the mileage. Nothing wrong with "not actual mileage".

Lots of folks reset the odometer in a complete restoration. Makes the math easy when someone asks how many miles you've put on it since resto.

Many cars have broken speedo's somewhere along the line, so mileage is a guess anyway. I decided to keep my mileage since I had maintenance records and am convinced I have 212,000 actual miles on the car now.
 
#4 ·
personally...id roll back the miles to 0 too...but thats ONLY for my car ONLY because id want to start fresh after a restoration and a good rebuilt engine...simply because u can get the new mileage on the new engine alot easier.....but 52k seems almost the going price for a GT500 these days....avg price i think is around 40-50k....but damn...i blame it on gone in 60 seconds...all because of that damn movie has screwed it up for everyone comming close to a chance to own one.... ::
 
#5 ·
When I put in my 351W motor, I rolled the speedo back to 0. This way I can keep track of the miles on the motor. Who knows how many miles the car has actually, how many times the speedo has rolled over. So, if I ever sell it the buyer will know exactly how many miles the engine has, and either way I'd have to check the box on the title for not actual milage. But Idon't plan on ever selling the fastback, so it's just for my own use.
 
#7 ·
Another reason could be that the odometer didn't work or was taken by someone robbing parts from the car. If you had to find another one, wouldn't it be just as "wrong" to put in one that reperesented another car's milage???????
 
#8 ·
I don't mean to play Devil's advocate here, but if I read the listing correctly, it is listed for someone's Estate. That usually means that someone has died. However, I'm sure that the guy doing the listing told the family that a decent Shelby can go for a premium. Hence, the high price.
 
G
#9 ·
On a Shelby or other rare Mustang, I would never roll back the miles considering I knew for a fact that the speedo was the original. Part of the problem is lots of these intrument clusters get changed on cars over the years. Maybe one gauge quit working, did a 5 dial conversion, etc... Unless the car is very low mileage and can be documented as such, mileage doesn't mean flip.
 
#12 ·
Personally, I don't like the idea of messing with the odometer. I've never done it to one of my cars and don't plan to. I can, however, see the point of the "other side".

When I put my new engine/tranny in I looked at my odometer to document it so as to keep track of the mileage on the motor. I was surprised to see it had just flipped over and was sitting at 15 miles. It's very convenient to just look at the odometer and say, yup, I got 17k miles on my engine/tranny now. So I can see why people do it.
 
#15 ·
The odometer for my vert still reads 000000. that's another story. But when I got the car, the 68 cluster was definitely not the original equipment, and while servicing the replacement unit, it only made sense to set it back to zeroes as that unit was from a donor car.
 
#17 ·
I didn't have a choice with my fastback. When the idiot PO torched the interior, the gauges burned. Plus, I put in new Teleflex gauges. The title says 180,000 miles, I know the 390 had about 10,000 miles on it when it was pulled out of the original wrecked car in 1968 (Cougar), so I might as well start at zero on the odometer. It's just too confusing otherwise. ::
 
#18 ·
I tried to roll mine back... But failed miserably. LOL.
 
#19 ·
Most people who buy an old car to restore could care less what the odometer reads since it should be gone through entirely anyhow. After umpteen years and a unknown history, who knows if the odo has turned over once or twice or three times.

If I have a box of instrument clusters and want to pick the best one do I match it to what the original says? Only if I know it has really low miles. Other wise it is of no real significance. Just do not represent the car as "original miles". I would and have reset odos to 000000 and will again. BUT NEVER REPRESENT IT AS ORIGINAL MILES. John
 
#20 ·
I noticed that the title for my mustang says exempt on the odometer space. What's up with that? Does that just mean that the mileage is lost or so high it makes no difference what it is.
 
#21 ·
I just registered my car in PA. The PO said it was 77k original miles, but when you register it in PA if it's older than 10 years the state automatically puts exempt on the title! I argued with the clerk about this for desireability sake, etc., but it didn't sink in ::. Oh well...